On 07/25/2013 10:20 AM, Trawley Trash wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:58:11 -0700
> Todd > wrote:
>
>> On 07/22/2013 08:24 AM, Trawley Trash wrote:
>>> potato/mung bean noodles
>>
>> Potatoes and beans? How do you get away with all the carbs
>> in this? Are you T2 or T1?
>
> Type II, but the problem seems to be fructose and galactose.
> Grains are out, because they contain fructans. These are
> not digestible by us, but intestinal flora can break them
> down and release fructose. This gives a delayed reaction that
> is difficult to detect, but it is repeatable once I know
> to look for it.
>
> Some grasses have more fructans/fructose than others. At the
> top of the list is sugar cane. Those with the least are wheat
> at 0.7 % and rice with virtually none. Fermenting and cooking
> reduce the amount of fructose. It is interesting that the
> earliest use of grains was in making beer. This was probably
> a thin porridge that was left to ferment. Amerindians used
> a similar method to render acorns less toxic by soaking the
> flour for several days.
>
> Beans are off my paleo menu, because they contain galactose
> and galactans, but as with fructose the amount varies widely.
> The worst beans are phaseolus vulgaris: pinto, lima, green,
> and almost all the common beans yous see in stores. Again
> fermenting, cooking and sprouting can be used to render them less
> toxic. Mung beans are a different species, and they seem to be
> OK. Long beans are different genus from common beans, and I can eat
> those. I have to test any new bean carefully.
>
> There is a limit on the amount of carbs I can eat. I doubt I
> will ever eat a plate of pasta again. But 200-300 grams of potatoes
> spread through the day seem to be no problem.
>

Hi Trawley,

What a pain in the neck! It does sound more and more
like your liver.

I loved my pasta and I think that is what did me in
(T2 NIDDM). I am Paleo now too, less the bugs, lizards,
snakes ...

I think beer is what started all this T2 stuff. Once we
discovered beer, we started hybridizing grains to improve
the production of beer.

-T