"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
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> On Tue, 7 May 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 7 May 2013 19:49:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
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>>>> Diabetes doesn't "lead to" heart disease. He may have heart problems.
>>>> I
>>>> don't. Never have. Many diabetics don't.
>>>
>>> Maybe, but maybe you're like governor Christie and an obese person I
>>> know who say they are in perfect health... it doesn't mean it won't
>>> happen. Christie got lap band surgery for his "health"... if he was
>>> still healthy every other way in reality, he wouldn't have done it.
>>> Men are like that.
>>
>> I would never say that I'm in perfect health. Nobody with diabetes could
>> make that claim!
>>>
>>>> It might be said that there is a
>>>> higher percentage of diabetics with heart problems than the general
>>>> population but I don't know that to be true.
>>>
>>> I don't know either, that's what I read recently and I have no reason
>>> to disbelieve it because doctors always tell people to lose weight
>>> even if they are healthy otherwise. Why? Because excess weight leads
>>> to other problems.
>>
>> No Dr. has told me to lose weight. Not ever. But I was told to gain
>> weight
>> when I was severely underweight. And my doing that then would be about
>> as
>> futile as my trying to lose weight now.
>>
>> Recent studies have shown that overweight people live longer than
>> underweight or even normal weight people. I don't think being overweight
>> is
>> a problem or even the lower end of obese. Certainly if one is morbidly
>> obese there can be wear and tear on the joints, the back, etc. I suppose
>> the feet could even take a pounding. But there are plenty of obese
>> people
>> who have no known medical problems. Of course the fact that they are
>> obese
>> might make them not want to go to the Dr. I have seen people say this
>> online. They get sick but fear the Dr. because they think the Dr. will
>> not
>> help them unless they lose weight.
>
> maybe because "obese" is not generally the normal state for the human
> body? I suspect you've misread the study you're referring to about
> "overweight people live longer than...". There are more than a few
> qualifying statements in that study. Overweight in the USA IS a problem,
> that's become epidemic in my lifetime, and I'm your age.
>
> I watched some of that Dr. Fuhrman program on "Diabesity" on my local PBS
> station recently, and he had an interesting statistic; in the 1980's, no
> state in the US had over 20% obesity rate, and in 2010 there was not a
> state that didn't have over 20% obesity! What the heck are we doing,
> people?

And that's the problem. We just don't know. Lots of finger pointing! But
nobody knows.