Jonathan Ball > wrote in message
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> Derek wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:27:43 GMT, Jonathan Ball >
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"veganism" commits a massive and classic logical
> >>fallacy at its very co
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't.
>
> Yes, it does. The fallacy is built into "veganism" at
> the very beginning. All "vegans" commit it, and most
> continue to commit it even after it is illustrated for
> them in 6-color diagrams.
>
> > You commit the fallacy
>
> I commit no fallacy.
>
> > by building a
> > false argument and then attribute it to vegans as
> > their's when it isn't.
>
> It is theirs (not "their's", you moron). All "vegans"
> subscribe to it, some explicitly, some implicitly.
>
> >
> >
> >>Denying the Antecedent. It goes like this:
> >>
> >> If I consume animal parts, I cause the suffering
> >> and death of animals.
> >
> >
> > This premise is false
>
> All "vegans" believe it to be true. The truth of the
> proposition is immaterial: all "vegans" believe it to
> be true, and construct the rest of their fallacy on the
> belief.
>
> >
> >
> >> I do not consume animal parts;
> >>
> >> therefore, I do not cause the suffering and death
> >> of animals.
> >>
> >>This conclusion, of course, is patently false,
> >
> >
> > And that's why you claim it to be the vegan's argument:
>
> No. I claim it to be the "vegan's"

Why the quotes?

> argument because
> they all say it, unanimously and universally. Most say
> it implicitly: that's what the Irrational Search for
> Micrograms of Animal Parts is about.
>
> > because it's a false argument. In short, you've built a
> > straw man
>
> No. All "vegans" believe it.

You really think you can trivialise us by using quotes? This group really is
becoming Mecca for poor little lame-brained meat-eating idiots and poseurs.

For Christ's sake let's cut the crap and start swapping some interesting
recipes again!

And all of you pratts who don't approve of Veganism - well - sod off
somewhere else coz you ain't gonna convert anyone back to meat-eating on
here with the sort of irrational, trivial, malicious and vexatious arguments
you pathetically keep coming up with!