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On 02/03/2013 02:09 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> i Cheri,
>> >
>> > He told me he just wouldn't put up with the restrictions. He
>> >said he moved to insulin so he could eat whatever he wants. The
>> >addiction thing makes sense. It also may be one of those "different
>> >strokes for different folks" things. Freedom is an awesome thing.
>> >

> People who are on insulin can NOT eat whatever they want and I really wish
> you would quit saying that.


Hi Julie,

I agree with you completely. Insulin uses don't get a free ride
to eat whatever they want.

> Your posts here are soo full of misinformation
> that they are ticking me right off. I would just kill file you but I fear
> that what you are saying is potentially dangerous information to a newcomer
> and/or someone who doesn't know any better.


I am agreeing with you. Why are you getting ****ed at me? Even if
we did not agree, have I been rude or ungentlemanly in any way?

>
> You have mentioned these "restrictions" several times but haven't said what
> they were. Did someone tell him to eat a specific diet? If so, what was
> it?


Yes! Both my ER doctor and my new GP gave me very specific information
as to what I could and could not eat. It is all over the web too.
Basically, in a nutshell: nothing refined, carbs and sugar are the
same thing (blood glucose wise), keep you carbs to 15 per meal,
and keep your carbs to 60 max per day. I didn't reference this
as I thought everyone got this lecture. I was even given carb
reference books. And warned about liars glucose, such as Maltodextrin.
Also told me I have to exercise.

>
> My dad, brother and I all take insulin. None of us can ever eat whatever we
> want or even necessarily*when* we want.


When did I say this? If you could help me here and quote me, it would
help me improve my writing so as not to be so badly misunderstood.
You obviously think I said this, so I must have written something
wrong.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not deliberately
trying to pick a fight, the only thing I can think happened was that
I was speaking of one specific individual who admitted to me
he used insulin so he could eat whatever he wanted and did not
make it clear that I was only talking about one specific individual
and you thought I was talking about all insulin users.

> Yes, I am eating less carbs than
> before. My favorite meal used to be a pinto bean burrito with a side of
> pinto beans and rice! No way could I eat that now. Once in a while I will
> get a burrito with meat and eat some of the tortilla but those restaurant
> tortillas are huge and I know that it is too many carbs for me. But I don't
> eat meat much so I usually eat something else. Today I had black bean soup.
> BG was fine before and after.


This is very good news! I do miss beans, but not that much.

>
>> > And, since I love my feet right where they are, I do have to
>> >remember not to judge unless one walks first in someone else's
>> >shoes, or in this case, someone else's prosthetics.


> Please provide a cite that eating carbs cause you to lose a limb.


Okay.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dia...=complications

You didn't get this lecture?


> If they
> did, then we'd all not be walking around? Right? Or typing with a pen in
> our mouth due to lack of arms. I know two diabetics who lost toes. One was
> a type 1 and the other was type 2. I don't know the particulars of the type
> 1 but she died soon after. I suspect there were a lot of other medical
> things I didn't know about. The type 2 was elderly, couldn't understand the
> diet he was put on which at the time was the Exchange plan and didn't seek
> medical care when he should have. People where I worked did try to feed
> him the right diet when he was there but he took some meals elsewhere. And
> was clearly not in good medical shape besides the diabetes. Not sure his
> cause of death but the removal of the toes started with an infection. Not
> from eating carbs.


Eat carbs, up goes blood glucose, neuropathy sets in, loose body
parts. You did not get this lecture either?

> There was an amputee named Guy who used to post here. He claims his problem
> started with a fungal infection. Not from eating carbs.


The individual I spoke of dropped something of his foot. Two
weeks apart on each foot. Got infected. Went into gangerine.
It started with carbs. Guy probably had neuropathy. And
that indeed started with too many carbs.


>> >
>> > I am also very blessed by a wife that got so angry that
>> >the food I was eating did this to me, that she insists that
>> >we both are on the same diet. I have the greatest family
>> >support anyone could ask for. She is a delicate, sweet,
>> >famine thing that turns into a fierce mama bear when one
>> >of her loved ones is in danger. I am very blessed.


> The food that you ate did not give you diabetes. More misinformation.


I do believe it did. Both my ER doctor and my new GP said
I burn myself out. Humans were designed to be hunter
gathers, not carb eaters. There are references all over
the web to this.

> I
> don't think you are blessed if your wife is in famine.


Funny typo. That should have been "feminine". She is
the sweetest, prettiest thing on the face of this earth.
Also, the smartest person I know (165+ IQ). I am truly
blessed.

>> >-T
>> >
>> >It has been said about the western diet that we are consuming
>> >vast quantities of food like substances and starving at the
>> >same time because of it.


> Said who?


If you have Netflix/Roku, take a watch at a documentary called
"Hungry for Change". There are other references too.

Here is another good reference:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-p...ate-continuum/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/

> Oh I probably don't want to know. You very much remind me of a
> former poster here. He left. Got annoyed with us I guess. Because we
> weren't buying what he said.


Julie, if you think I have said something offensive or incorrect,
just tell me so. Don't get ****ed. I am a nice guy. We
can work things out.

Bon appetit!

-T