On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:29:24 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/3/2013 12:14 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:22 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/2/2013 2:22 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:27:59 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/02/2013 9:31 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can make arguments both ways, such as paying a good wage and
>>>>>>> eliminating the tip. As long as you know up front, I don't have a
>>>>>>> problem with the 18% add on. Every year at our Christmas party (about
>>>>>>> 40 people) they add the 18%. Unlike the cheapo pastor, the bill is
>>>>>>> paid with additional tip added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't eat out often but when I do I always tip 25-30 percent. I know
>>>>>> that's high but I also realize that waitresses get paid very little and
>>>>>> count on tips. I appreciate their care (if it's good) so I don't mind
>>>>>> paying that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're right. It is high.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I wanted to save money, I'd cook at home for much cheaper, even without
>>>>>> the tip.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but I don't buy into the argument that if you can afford to eat
>>>>> out you can afford to pay a larger tip. I am not into playing Mr.
>>>>> Bigshot and expecting wait staff to jump when I snap my fingers. They
>>>>> aren't trained dogs. The taking of orders and delivery of food is part
>>>>> of the service that you get when you eat in a restaurant. If I have to
>>>>> pay extra to get a smile and the patronizing tip soliciting behaviour I
>>>>> will take the food without the smile and save the money.
>>>>
>>> (gentle snippage)
>>>> I never put tips on plastic, all my tips are in green
>>>> money directly into the hand of my the server, I never leave a tip on
>>>> the table. Those who don't carry cash are the worst of the
>>>> cheapskates.
>>>>
>>> You sound like my father! He cautioned never put tips on "plastic"
>>> (credit card). He figured what the government doesn't know won't hurt
>>> them. The problem with this is tips are taxed based on total sales.
>>> Cash or plastic, it doesn't matter. Uncle Sam is gonna get his even if
>>> the server didn't earn that much in tips.
>>
>> My tipping with cash into the hand of the person has not a whit to do
>> with government (I've no control over taxation nor do I pretend to),
>> it's only that I like to make sure my tip goes to the person for whom
>> I intended, this way they remember it's me who tipped them and how
>> much. Leaving cash on a restaurant table and walking away is as
>> foolish as foolish gets... when leaving it's no biggie to walk over to
>> my server and press cash into their hand and thank them.
>>
>>
>I was mistaken on the reason for cash vs. plastic. Sorry about that.
>
>Jill

Actually I don't pay my restaurant tabs with credit cards, always with
cash.