On 11/30/2012 9:18 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:20:07 -0500, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:20:48 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:29:42 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:57:35 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:23:34 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:13:44 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:59:29 -0500, the following appeared
>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:39:35 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:11 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:13:01 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:41:22 -0500, the following appeared
>>>>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:49:32 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:59:53 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:26:24 -0700, Bob Casanova > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:42:55 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I challenge you to try to help the Goober and/or "Bob" and/or yourself try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to explain what you think is preventing you from benefitting from your life. Go:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Already been done, multiple times. And just as above, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snipped the explanation and pretended it didn't exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try presenting an example if you think you're aware of one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No examples exist of "benefitting solely from life", which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the point. Try to keep up, even if you are an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!! You proved yourself a liar then.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was hoping you could at least attempt to pretend you have some clue what
>>>>>>>>>> you want people to think is preventing you from benefitting from your life, but
>>>>>>>>>> you've proven to have no clue what you want people to think is preventing you.
>>>>>>>>>> That is YOUR fault. You can't support your own claim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've abandoned the effort to educate him in this thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!!! You don't have any idea what you think you're trying to talk about. I
>>>>>>>> knew it from the start, and now you've made it clear that you also finally found
>>>>>>>> out you don't have any idea. Hilarious!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatever you say, Sparky. Continue to wallow in ignorance;
>>>>>>> it suits you.
>
>>>>>> You're right about that anyway.
>
>>> There, fixed it for you again. You're welcome.
>
>>>> You've had some time now.
>
>>> Yep
>
>>>> Do you think you can finally try to explain what
>>>> you think is preventing your life from being an advantage to you yet? Or are you
>>>> still completely unable to even make an attempt as you have been all along?
>
>>> , but you continue to wallow in ignorance. So be it.
>
>> It's your fault because you can't attempt to back up your claim
>
> I'm not making a claim; you are. You claim that "life is a
> benefit". You provide zero evidence in support of that
> claim, and it's up to you, not me, to support it.

Meanwhile, I have shown that life - existence - *cannot* be a benefit.
A benefit is something that improves the welfare of an entity. The
entity, and thus the entity's welfare, must *already* exist in order to
be capable of improvement. Therefore, existence cannot be a benefit.


> As I said before, I've seen, and you've provided, exactly NO
> examples of "benefitting solely from life".

Of course not. There can't be any - by definition.


> Existence
> provides the framework in which benefit can exist, but it
> confers no benefit in itself.

I'd phrase it a bit differently, but it's not a big material difference.
I would say that existence *is* the framework, or the necessary
condition, in which benefit can occur.


> If you disagree it's up to you
> to provide evidence of some specific benefit conferred
> solely by existence.

He can't - he won't even attempt it. ****wit - that's legally his name
- starts with ridiculous and false premises, mixes them up with his own
special cracker blend of illogic, and then "argues" by mere assertion
and repetition.


>> . I can't
>> read your mind
>
> You can't even read what's written, so that's no surprise.

It's not so much that he can't, although his reading comprehension
ability is severely defective. It's more that he refuses to try.