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On Oct 11, 9:11*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote:
> On Oct 11, 3:06*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
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> > On 10/11/2012 11:56 AM, Mr. N.A.Cho wrote:

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> > > On Oct 11, 4:27 am, Rupert > wrote:
> > >> On Oct 10, 5:53 pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote:

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> > >>> On Oct 10, 11:47 am, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" >
> > >>> wrote:

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> > >>>> "Rupert" > wrote

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> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Check this out Its great
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

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> > >>>>>>>>>>> It's shit. It's unpalatable shit.

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> > >>>>>>>>>>> Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

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> > >>>>>>>>>> It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

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> > >>>>>>>>>>> No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

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> > >>>>>>>>>> Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

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> > >>>>>>>>> This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
> > >>>>>>>>> suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
> > >>>>>>>>> healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
> > >>>>>>>>> exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
> > >>>>>>>>> Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
> > >>>>>>>>> diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
> > >>>>>>>>> significant health benefits.

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> > >>>>>>>>> I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
> > >>>>>>>>> correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
> > >>>>>>>>> me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
> > >>>>>>>>> and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

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> > >>>>>>>>> --Tedward

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> > >>>>>>>> You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

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> > >>>>>>> <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

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> > >>>>>>> The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

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> > >>>>>>> --Tedward

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> > >>>>>> Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
> > >>>>>> since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
> > >>>>>> sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
> > >>>>>> years old, I think.

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> > >>>>>> "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.

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> > >>>>>> You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.

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> > >>>>>> --Tedward

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> > >>>>> They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
> > >>>>> them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
> > >>>>> anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.

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> > >>>>> Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
> > >>>>> you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.

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> > >>>>> -----

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> > >>>>> Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
> > >>>>> the argument.

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> > >>>> It's not an ad hominem argument. I am not basing my counter-argument
> > >>>> on the assertion that your opinions are ignorant prejudices, I have
> > >>>> given you plenty of good evidence to support my claims. The assertion
> > >>>> that your opinions are ignorant prejudices is just a factual
> > >>>> observation which I choose to put in there as well. It is quite
> > >>>> obviously true because you have shown yourself to be incapable of
> > >>>> producing any evidence to support your ill-founded beliefs.

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> > >>>> If you insist on remaining ignorant then it's no skin off my nose; I
> > >>>> really couldn't care less.

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> > >>>> Evidence? *We've provided a ton. *You admit backhandedly that
> > >>>> children need milk. *We have canines. *We've all seen sickly looking
> > >>>> vegans (who BTW overlap with goths heavily).

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> > >>> maybe I'm shallow, hell I'll admit that I probably am - but you don't
> > >>> see many (ANY?) decent looking vegans. *They all look pasty and
> > >>> malnourished. * ****, comparing them to goths is being kind, I'd
> > >>> compare them to zombies.

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> > >> How would you know? Do you have some special faculty whereby whenever
> > >> you see someone walking down the street you can instantly tell whether
> > >> or not they are vegan?

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> > > you can make educated guesses - gaunt, pasty-complexion, no muscle
> > > tone, stringy hair, veggie body odor, listless eyes, etc

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> > I think it's obviously possible to make some wrong guesses, just as it's
> > possible to guess wrong about who's a queer and who isn't, but I think
> > it's not all that hard to be right more often than not. *The reason is
> > that there are a lot of other "tells" available. *All "vegans" are
> > left-wingers, although not all left-wingers are "vegans"; but if you see
> > a car plastered with a lot of ecotopian slogans and other left-wing
> > blabber, there's a pretty good chance that the owner is at least an
> > extreme vegetarian, if not "vegan". *Also, if the driver gets out of the
> > car and is wearing Birkenstocks, that's another good "tell".- Hide quoted text -

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> I think being a vegan takes a tremendous toll on one's appearance, at
> least in every single instance I've seen.


You haven't done any scientifically valid investigation of the matter.
You're not in a position to know.