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Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)
On Oct 11, 10:55*pm, dh@. wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:42:06 -0700 (PDT), Rupert >
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> >On Oct 10, 9:58 pm, dh@. wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:24:24 -0700 (PDT), Rupert >
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> >> >On Oct 9, 8:06 pm, dh@. wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:37:18 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 >
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> >> >> >On Oct 8, 9:01 am, Rupert > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Oct 8, 5:45 pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Oct 8, 4:50 am, Rupert > wrote:
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> >> >> >> > > On Sep 21, 8:00 am, Goo wrote:
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> >> >> >> > > > On 9/20/2012 3:04 PM, Just.Some.guy wrote:
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> >> >> >> > > > > Check this out Its great
> >> >> >> > > > >http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A
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> >> >> >> > > > It's shit. It's unpalatable shit.
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> >> >> >> > > How would you be in a position to know?
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> >> >> >> > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste
> >> >> >> > > > like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.
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> >> >> >> > > Why?
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> >> >> >> > Why do you think they call vegan meat Satan?
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> >> >> >> I didn't realize they did call it that.
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> >> >> >They changed the spelling to throw people off the track.:
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> >> >> >http://www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm
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> >> >> It almost certainly involves more animal deaths than grass raised beef, and
> >> >> in some cases grain fed beef. Not as bad as rice based products, but still worse
> >> >> than grass raised beef if not grain fed as well.
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> >> >How do you know?
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> >> The only way it could not is if there are no wildlife in the area where the
> >> grain is grown. Of course with rice it's not a question due to the flooding and
> >> draining in addition to all the machinery and chemical deaths.
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> >I don't really find your remarks convincing. We did an examination of
> >one estimate for the expected collateral death rate associated with a
> >serving of tofu in the past, and it turned out to be less than the
> >corresponding estimate for grass-fed beef.
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> * * I don't remember that, but feel that an estimate for number of deaths per
> serving of grass raised beef should be much less than one.
Yes, we did agree on that point.
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