On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:12:13 -0500, Mike Lovell > wrote:

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>On 2012-08-16, dh@. <dh@> wrote:
>>>>>> All you're referring to is people putting their faith in the possibility
>>>>>> that no intelligent being(s) had any deliberate influence on how things
>>>>>> developed on this or probably any other planet. If God does exist, science
>>>>>> teaches us how he did and does things and atheism does nothing to help with any
>>>>>> of it.
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>>>>>That's not faith.
>>>>
>>>> Faith is faith. Too bad you don't like it, but that's how it is. WHY don't
>>>> you like the fact that faith is faith, can you explain that?
>>>
>>>More pearls of wisdom. Yes faith is faith.
>>
>> Congratulation...maybe.
>>
>>>Lack of belief and lack of faith requires no faith.
>>
>> Being a strong atheist does.
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>Which I'm not

Maybe you're not. Maybe you are and are ashamed to admit it. The vast
majority of apparently strong atheists that I've encountered are ashamed of
their own faith. Very ashamed.

>, and the vast majority of people here aren't either.
>
>Which you should know by now.
>
>>>>>You assert there's a intelligent creator,
>>>>
>>>> No I sure don't. I do go farther than you're apparently capable of going and
>>>> consider the possibility though.
>>>
>>>You do, the fact that you attempt to hide it in some pathetic attempt to
>>>make your theism palatable to atheists.
>>
>> I consider possibilities that many atheists are necessarily unable to take
>> into consideration. I consider the ONE possibility that strong atheists are able
>> to consider, plus quite a few more that they are not able to consider.
>
>You better talk to a strong atheist about this.

You better talk to someone who asserts that there's a creator. Sometimes it
appears you like to think you're able to consider the possibility of his
existence, but you never show any evidence of it.

>>>>>Science doesn't teach us about God, it teaches us about the Universe.
>>>>
>>>> If God exists science teaches us things about how he did/does things even if
>>>> you are honestly unable to comprehend.
>>>
>>>And there's no evidence God exists,
>>
>> Here's a basic clue for you: If there were no evidence that God exists, no
>> one would believe that God exists. I doubt you'll ever be able to get as far as
>> that easy basic aspect of the situation, but no one would believe in God if
>> there were no evidence none the less.
>
>Wrong

If there were no evidence of God there would be nothing for people to
believe in.

>, it's called faith. Belief and faith.
>
>There's no evidence God exists.

In contrast to that the belief and faith you referred to are in what people
consider to be evidence of God's existence. You really are clueless about some
basic stuff.

>>>so science doesn't teach us about
>>>God.
>>
>> It does if God exists, almost certainly even if he's not aware that this
>> planet exists.
>
>Which hasn't been proved, so we cannot insert God into an explanation of
>anything.

Some of us can consider possibilities involving the existence of God, and
others of you aren't able to. You probably amusingly want people to believe you
can for whatever reason, but I doubt you could explain why you'd want them to.

>>>Only a theist would keep inserting God into everything.
>>
>> An agnostic might too, but you can't get that far.
>
>An agnostic-theist might ;-)

You're incapable but probably amusingly want people to think you're not. WHY
do you want people to think you're not, and HOW do you want people to try to
persuade themselves that you're not???

>>>Why not fairies, goblins and leprechauns??
>>
>> Try to figure it out. See if you can even get close.
>
>The fact you avoided the question gives me the answer I need ;-)
>
>
>Science teaches us about the things fairies do
>Science teaches us about the things goblins do
>Science teaches us about the things leprechauns do
>
>
>Why are these invalid yet "God" is valid?

Because of things humans have learned about the possibility of some things,
but are still in no position to have learned about others. You might think
you're in the position to know God does not exist, which would be extra amusing
since I still suspect you want people to think you're also capable of
considering the possibility that he does exist.