On 8/2/2012 6:56 AM, Rupert wrote:
> On 2 Aug., 15:38, George Plimpton > wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, yeah, you've tried that shit before. It has to be better or worse
>>>>>>>>>>>> *for* someone or something that has a welfare that can be evaluated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saying that "it's just better" is nonsense.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you claim, although you appear to just be asserting it without
>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've given the argument before. You know I'm right. "Better or worse"
>>>>>>>>>> as you're claiming "some philosophers" use them is an ethical
>>>>>>>>>> proposition, and that requires someone with a welfare state to
>>>>>>>>>> experience the outcome - someone to be the subject of the ethical outcome.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't remember any argument,
>>
>>>>>>>> Your brain has a number of crippling defects; poor memory is only one such.
>>
>>>>>>> I have an extremely good memory.
>>
>>>>>> No, you don't. You've forgotten all about how I demolished your
>>>>>> contention that "better or worse" can obtain independently of anyone
>>>>>> experiencing them.
>>
>>>>> I do have an extremely good memory.
>>
>>>> No, you don't.
>>
>>> Do you think there's any possibility that I might be in a better
>>> position to know than you?
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> People in the grip of delusions often refuse to consider any
> possibility that they might be wrong.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You were the one who exhibited psychosis.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what way?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chortle>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a shame you don't feel like answering the question
>>
>>>>>>>>>> <guffaw>
>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you think I have delusions?
>>
>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha! Yes, many.
>>
>>>>> What are some examples?
>>
>>>> A delusion of competence, for one. A delusion of being an ethicist, for
>>>> another.
>>
>>> I do not believe that I am an ethicist
>>
>> You fancy yourself one.
>
> You live in a fantasy world.

No. You *do* fancy yourself an ethicist. You've even boasted of having
been invited to give "talks" on ethics, as if you're qualified to do so.