****wit David Harrison, convicted felon, lied:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:05:40 -0700, Dutch > wrote:
>
>> ****wit David Harrison, convicted felon, lied:
>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:35:51 -0700, Dutch > wrote:
>>>
>>>> ****wit David Harrison, convicted felon, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:20:52 -0700, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison, convicted felon, lied:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:30:08 -0700, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****wit David Harrison, convicted felon, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I showed that you only want to consider bad things because and only because
>>>>>>>>> considering positive aspects for millions of livestock animals works against the
>>>>>>>>> elimination objective, Goo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aside from battery hens, *you* only want to consider the good. You're
>>>>>>>> just as nonobjective as ARAs, in fact you're worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no way that's true, so you're lying blatantly again. Not only are
>>>>>>> you lying blatantly, but you also have no idea which other lives I might believe
>>>>>>> are most often of negative value, if any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So list them.
>>>>>
>>>>> For one thing there are some who have lives of negative value in every group
>>>>> including groups where the vast majority of the animals appear to have lives of
>>>>> positive value, like broiler chickens and grass raised cattle. Most of them
>>>>> appear to have decent lives, but some don't for whatever particular reasons.
>>>>> Then in other groups the negative aspect is probably greater than the positive,
>>>>> like with caged egg producers and probably sows in gestation and farrowing
>>>>> crates. However I'm also aware that though farrowing crates probably cause life
>>>>> to be of negative or at least reduced value for the sows, they make life of much
>>>>> greater value for the young pigs. You people can't appreciate such details, but
>>>>> some of us are able to.
>>>>
>>>> <blah blah>
>>>
>>> Those are just more things you people hate to think about because they don't
>>> favor elimination.
>>
>> Stop lying, you don't believe I favor elimination,
>
> You were honest about

Dutch does not favor the elimination of livestock, and you know it.