On 4/25/2012 5:30 AM, Rupert wrote:
> On Apr 24, 7:52 am, George > wrote:
>> On 7/30/2007 7:07 AM, pearl wrote:
>>
>>> ANIMAL RIGHTS BILL 1 - Tom Regan speaks.
>>> Video (8.38 minutes)
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADhNch30Img
>>
>> Regan says, "They [animals] are not only in the world, they are aware
>> of it, and also what happens to them." Bullshit. Animals are *not*
>> aware that they are in the world, they don't even know there's a world,
>> and they have no concept whatever of any "fate" in store for them.
>>
>
> The claim is that animals are aware of the world. To quote Ludwig
> Wittgenstein, "The world is everything that is the case."

Sophistry.



> Animals are
> aware of some aspects of reality. They are not aware of the existence
> of the planet earth or the universe, and they are not able to think at
> a sufficient level of abstraction to be able to think to themselves
> "The world is everything that is the case", but they are aware of some
> aspects of reality, and that is enough for the claim to be true.

Animals are not aware that they exist *in* reality. No animal
contemplates in any way the relationship between itself and the rest of
reality.



>> Regan: "And what happens to them matters to them." Wrong.
>>
>
> Actually, it is very obviously true.

No, it is very obviously false. *Nothing* matters to them. "Matters to
them" is completely alien to animal mentation.


>
>> "Like us, they bring a unified psychological presence to the world."
>> Bullshit - pure mealymouthed psychobabble.
>>
>
> It's not bullshit.

It's unadulterated bullshit.