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Default "Speciesism" - nothing wrong with it

On Apr 18, 7:38*am, "Dutch" > wrote:
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> > On Apr 17, 9:25 am, "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> "Rupert" > wrote

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> >> > Yes, you're right that it is highly controversial, and I never
> >> > suggested otherwise, but he confirmed my belief that the majority
> >> > opinion of ethicists is that different amounts of consideration based
> >> > on species is something that needs to be justified, the burden of
> >> > proof is on the speciesist.

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> >> The consideration differences that exist in so-called "speciesism" are
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> >> actually based on species. One thought experiment to illustrate would be
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> >> imagine that a friendly extraterrestrial race of beings arrived on earth
> >> that had superior intellectual capacities to humans. That species would
> >> automatically be given full consideration equal to humans, and it would
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> >> be based on species, it would be based on the totality of the entire
> >> constellation of capacities inherent *in* the species. The reason that
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> >> "isms" like racism and sexism are wrong is that they are based on
> >> misconceptions about the capacities of the groups they discriminate
> >> against.
> >> The discrimination we have against sea sponges is not based on a
> >> misconception.

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> >> There's your proof, and explanation.

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> > But when confronted with two cases, one involving a member of your own
> > species who lacks the usual capacities for your species

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> You're talking about abilities, not capacities.
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No, I'm not.

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> > involving a member of another species, you discriminate on the basis
> > of species.

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> No, I don't.


Good to hear.