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Default Always put quotes around "vegan"

Goo - ****wit David Harrison - lied:

>>>>>> It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
>>>>>> ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.
>>>>
>>>> Below are all true.
>>>
>>> Then you're saying that some people SHOULD become vegans, Goo.

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>> No, I'm saying it's a logically consistent choice for some people who have irrational and wrong notions about animals.

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> You say so


No.


>> , I'm saying it's a logically consistent choice for some people who
>> have irrational and wrong notions about animals.

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> You're saying


No.


>>>>> "People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans"." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> ""vegans" are interested in their influence on animals,
>>>>> ****wit. They want everyone to be "vegan", which would
>>>>> mean no animals raised for food and other products. That's
>>>>> an influence, whether you like it or not." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
>>>>> ethically superior choice." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> ""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
>>>>> And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
>>>>> live in bad conditions." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
>>>>> to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
>>>>> results from killing them." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> "the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
>>>>> than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
>>>>> their deaths" - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
>>>>> of the animals erases all of it." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> "Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to
>>>>> exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Prof. Geo. Plimpton