"veganism" is bullshit
On Mar 14, 10:04*pm, "Dutch" > wrote:
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> > On Mar 14, 9:26 pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> >> On 3/14/2012 12:55 PM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> > On Mar 14, 4:04 pm, George > *wrote:
> >> >> On 3/14/2012 4:26 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> >>> On Mar 13, 6:42 pm, George > * *wrote:
> >> >>>> On 3/13/2012 9:25 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> >>>>> On 13 Mrz., 17:21, George > * * *wrote:
> >> >>>>>> On 3/13/2012 8:35 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> >>>>>>> On 13 Mrz., 15:58, George > * * * *wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/2012 1:30 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:22 pm, George >
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> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2012 6:51 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Mrz., 15:46, George >
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The initial interest in veganism is obviously motivated
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by concern
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about animal suffering.
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not. *It's motivated by a childish personification
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of animals.
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I have said before,
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was bullshit before, just as it's bullshit now.
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You reckon?
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes, for certain.
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>> So you think that it doesn't strike me as irrational to deny
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> that for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> most vegans the initial interest in veganism is motivated by
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> about animal suffering?
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> >> >>>>>>>>>> It's motivated by a childlike misunderstanding of it. **All*
> >> >>>>>>>>>> they see is
> >> >>>>>>>>>> that the meat came from a "cute" animal, and they feel "sad"
> >> >>>>>>>>>> about it.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "Awww...I'meatingamoo-cow, mommy. *Waaaahhhhh!"
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> >> >>>>>>>>> And presumably you would claim that these utterances of yours
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> >> >>>>>>>>> strike me as irrational.
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> >> >>>>>>>> Of course - they are. *I denigrate your fake concern for animals
> >> >>>>>>>> for the
> >> >>>>>>>> childlike emotional reaction they are.
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> >> >>>>>>> What evidence do you have that the concern is fake?
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> >> >>>>>> It's a concern for yourself, not for animals.
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> >> >>>>> Why do you think that?
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> >> >>>> I've shown that often enough over the time you've been participating
> >> >>>> here.
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> >> >>> And how do [timewasting]
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> >> >> I've shown it.
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> >> > Really?
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> >> Yep.
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> > And have you convinced me that you've shown it?
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> One compelling argument that you have definitely seen was given in great
> detail in the vegan shuffle argument.
Perhaps you can tell me which one you have in mind.
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