"Rupert" > wrote in message
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> On Mar 14, 9:26 pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
>> On 3/14/2012 12:55 PM, Rupert wrote:
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>> > On Mar 14, 4:04 pm, George > wrote:
>> >> On 3/14/2012 4:26 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>> >>> On Mar 13, 6:42 pm, George > wrote:
>> >>>> On 3/13/2012 9:25 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>> >>>>> On 13 Mrz., 17:21, George > wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 3/13/2012 8:35 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>> >>>>>>> On 13 Mrz., 15:58, George > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/2012 1:30 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 4:22 pm, George >
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>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2012 6:51 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Mrz., 15:46, George >
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The initial interest in veganism is obviously motivated
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by concern
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about animal suffering.
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not. It's motivated by a childish personification
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of animals.
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I have said before,
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was bullshit before, just as it's bullshit now.
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You reckon?
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes, for certain.
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>> >>>>>>>>>>> So you think that it doesn't strike me as irrational to deny
>> >>>>>>>>>>> that for
>> >>>>>>>>>>> most vegans the initial interest in veganism is motivated by
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>> >>>>>>>>>>> about animal suffering?
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>> >>>>>>>>>> It's motivated by a childlike misunderstanding of it. *All*
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>> >>>>>>>>>> that the meat came from a "cute" animal, and they feel "sad"
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>> >>>>>>>>>> "Awww...I'meatingamoo-cow, mommy. Waaaahhhhh!"
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>> >>>>>>>>> And presumably you would claim that these utterances of yours
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>> >>>>>>>> Of course - they are. I denigrate your fake concern for animals
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>> >>>>>>>> childlike emotional reaction they are.
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>> >>>>>>> What evidence do you have that the concern is fake?
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>> >>>>>> It's a concern for yourself, not for animals.
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>> >>>>> Why do you think that?
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>> >>>> I've shown that often enough over the time you've been participating
>> >>>> here.
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>> >>> And how do [timewasting]
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>> >> I've shown it.
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>> > Really?
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>> Yep.
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> And have you convinced me that you've shown it?

One compelling argument that you have definitely seen was given in great
detail in the vegan shuffle argument.