On Mar 8, 10:32*pm, dh@. wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:24:37 -0800 (PST), Rupert >
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> >On Mar 6, 11:55*pm, dh@. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:03:11 -0800 (PST), Rupert >
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> >> >On Mar 5, 8:22*pm, dh@. wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 06:33:57 -0800 (PST), Rupert >
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> >> >> >Obviously, therefore, you wouldn't have the least idea of how many
> >> >> >collateral deaths are associated with one serving of tofu.
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> >> >> * * That's because you don't so you can't tell me.
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> >> >No, my ignorance has no causal bearing on your ignorance.
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> >> * * Yet you try to blame me for your own inability to comprehend a significant
> >> difference between lives of positive and negative value.
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> >No, I don't.
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> >There is no reason to think I would be unable to comprehend a
> >definition that actually conveys some information, if you were able to
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No. The definition you offered obviously conveys no information. It
really is quite tragic that you cannot grasp this.

> You couldn't comprehend.

Because the definition is meaningless and conveys no information.

> You can't figure it out on your own either,
> or at least so far you haven't been able to.

It's not a question of "figuring anything out". It is not as though
the correct meaning of the phrase "lives of positive value" is somehow
part of the fabric of the universe and can be discovered by a process
of pure reason. It is *your* term. It is therefore *your* job to
formulate a definition of the term which actually conveys some
information. This you have failed to do.

> You thought you did for a second
> with your "better" idea, but that seems to have drifted away from you now....

Well, at one point I was talking about the idea of the outcome being
better, but you reject that notion, so that's obviously not what you
had in mind.

As I say, it's your job to specify what you have in mind when you use
the phrase. It's not within my power to read minds.

The fact that you are completely unable to give a definition that
conveys any information strongly suggests that you have no clear
concept in mind at all.