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Default Attn: Woopert - "glen" claims to be "cruelty free" (was The'vegan' shuffle)

On Mar 6, 3:07*pm, Glen > wrote:
> On 06/03/2012 13:54, Rupert wrote:
>
> > On Mar 6, 1:55 pm, > *wrote:
> >> On 06/03/2012 08:57, Rupert wrote:

>
> >>> On Mar 6, 5:08 am, George > * *wrote:
> >>>> Woopert, "glen" here is a "vegan" who claims his diet doesn't kill *any*
> >>>> animals. *What do you have to say to him, Woopert?

>
> >>> He is incorrect.

>
> >> I have never denied that animals die during crop production. What I
> >> deny is George's baseless claim that all the food I eat is /contaminated/
> >> with it.

>
> > Well, suffering and death have to take place to produce your food, as
> > long as you acknowledge that that's fine.

>
> It may be the case that some animals die but I don't believe
> they /have/ to die. I live on a farm and since my father's stroke
> about two years ago my sister and her husband keep a relatively
> small part of it going without killing animals to produce vegetables
> and fruits all year round. If they can do it so can others. I'm not
> interested in keeping it going. I just want to get rid of it.


It's not very realistic to think that food that you buy at the
supermarket would have been produced without causing suffering and
death.