kenny wrote "Thanks for the information I will set down and work out how
much I think I will really need I was a little aggressive with the amount of
wine I need in a year probably 50 gallons will be more in the balll park.
that is with putting 1/2 up to age for an extended time."

Kenny - The old suggestion of 1 gallon wine per vine is a good ballpark
figure. But don't let that stop you from planting several hundred vines if
you have the room and the interest. With lots of vines you can limit the
clusters of grapes per vine and increase the quality of your harvest. Also,
you will have bad weather some years and if you have lots of vines you may
still have enough grapes for your wine. And, you may end up selling part of
your harvest to offset the cost of chemicals, fertilizer, etc. I would
leave 10 feet between rows...makes it much easier to drive the tractor
through the vineyard to spray fungicide and insecticide. This farming you
know.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas