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> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:14:34 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
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>><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:56:31 +0000, Derek >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:49:48 -0800, dh@. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:22:12 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh) >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>On 10/01/2012 23:13, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:31:27 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 20:32, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > (heh heh heh) wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why Veganism?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For compassion,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's my reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you considered the collateral impact of those vegan
>>>>>>>>> alternatives? For
>>>>>>>>> example leather is a by-product of the meat industry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No it is not a by-product. More animals are slaughtered than would
>>>>>>>> otherwise be for their meat for leather.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you figure that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Leather is a co-product of the meat industry, not a by-product of
>>>>>>it. It's an economically dependent product of meat production made
>>>>>>simultaneously with it to make each affordable to the consumer and
>>>>>>thereby increases the demand for slaughtered animals. A by-product
>>>>>>is something produced incidentally to another product that isn't
>>>>>>economically dependent on it for its production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leather is.
>>>>
>>>> [Most consumers mistakenly assume that leather is merely
>>>> a by-product of the meat industry, and that buying leather
>>>> clothing does not increase the number of animals slaughtered.
>>>> However, this belief ignores the economic interdependence
>>>> of factory farming and the leather trade. In reality, leather is
>>>> a co-product of the meat industry, generating significant
>>>> profits for both factory farms and the leather trade itself. In
>>>> fact, without the lucrative sale of animal skins for leather,
>>>> factory farms would not even be able to turn a profit by
>>>> selling meat alone.
>>>
>>> Provide some reason to believe the claim. Go:

>>
>>Humans have NEVER considered animal hides to be waste.

>
> They are waste to the vast majority of the food industry. Duh. You need
> to
> provide some evidence that MORE cattle experience life because of leather,
> than
> do exist because they're raised to be used for food. Go:


You just need to shut up.