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For one who shall remain nameless.....
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
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>>> Ozgirl > wrote:
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>>> : "KROM" > wrote in message
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>>> : > sorry ozgirl but "put it out of its misery" has always meant to
>>> kill
>>> : > it here and I've heard it used in UK movies in the euthanize
>>> context.
>>> : >
>>> : > put "what does put it out of its misery mean?" into a Google
>>> search
>>> : > bar and see the result.
>>> : >
>>> : > its very easy to take something a person says wrong..so lets be
>>> : > careful when taking a idiom wrong in others because we will
>>> eventually
>>> : > do it ourselves.
>>> : >
>>> : > KROM
>>>
>>> : In my country an ass is not a butt. Should I take Americans
>>> literally
>>> : when they say ass? I accept what Americans use in that context,
>>> can it
>>> : be possible that Americans can accept different word/phrase usages
>>> from
>>> : others? Especially when the context was there, i.e. followed by a
>>> list
>>> : of possible ways to relieve said misery. Instead of a call of
>>> Ozgirl
>>> : suggests I kill my cat! How about, Ozgirl, are you saying I should
>>> kill
>>> : my cat? Nope, kangaroo trial instead. Tolerance for differences at
>>> its
>>> : best, but yet... the phrase means more than just to kill even in
>>> : America. Not my problem if people in here haven't experienced it.
>>> Not my
>>> : problem that people refuse to check it into properly. Google:
>>> "define:
>>> : put out of misery".
>>>
>>> :
>>> "http://www.writersevents.com/Words_Starting_with_P/put_ones_foot_down_put_something_together/put_someone_or_something_out_of_their_misery_defin ition.html
>>> : Idiom: put someone or something out of their misery
>>> : To ****relieve them***** from their physical suffering or their
>>> mental
>>> : anguish.
>>> : To kill (an animal that is in great pain)." (American)
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>>> :
>>> "http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/put-sb-out-of-their-misery
>>> : to stop someone worrying, usually by giving them information that
>>> they
>>> : have been waiting for" (British)
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>>> :
>>> "http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/put+someone+out+of+his+or+her+misery
>>> : Kill a wounded or suffering animal or person, as in When a horse
>>> breaks
>>> : a leg, there is nothing to do but put it out of its misery . [Late
>>> : 1700s]
>>>
>>> : End someone's feeling of suspense, as in Tell them who won the
>>> : tournament; put them out of their misery . [c. 1920] *******Both
>>> usages
>>> : employ put out of in the sense of "extricate" or "free
>>> from."********"
>>> : (American)
>>>
>>> : http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/put+out+of+misery
>>> : Put (one) out of (one's) misery
>>> : 1. Euph. Fig. to kill someone as an act of mercy. Why doesn't the
>>> doctor
>>> : simply put her out of her misery? He took pills to put himself out
>>> of
>>> : his misery.
>>> : 2. Fig. to end a suspenseful situation for someone. Please, put me
>>> out
>>> : of misery; what happened? I put her out of her misery and told her
>>> how
>>> : the movie ended.
>>> : See also: misery, out, put
>>> : McGraw-Hill Dictionary of ****************American
>>> Idioms*************
>>> : and Phrasal Verbs. ? 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
>>>
>>> : Anyone still want to tell me the phase ONLY means to euthanise?
>>>
>>> :
>>>
>>> A number of us simultainiously were astounded to hear that there was
>>> another meaning for a phrase we had all only heard s meaning to put
>>> down
>>> or wthenize n animal. We all wrote, pretty simlutaniously. When
>>> you
>>> described tht to you it didn't mean that some of us , at leasi I,
>>> said
>>> that in the US it was not such a meaning tht it had in oz. thant's
>>> all.
>>> When you sain put him out of his misery we had had an automatic
>>> response.
>>> Once we were told tht it was one of those bum , ass, knock up , kind
>>> of
>>> differences between British based and American usages we could begin
>>> to
>>> deal with it. Criticising us all and claiming dog iling, etc is
>>> rather
>>> an overkill from the Aussies as it was totally new to us USAns that
>>> there
>>> was any other meaning.
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>> 1. I explained (starting at least a couple of days ago) about there
>> being another meaning (with suggestions to check dictionaries and
>> context) yet the posts still kept flowing in about it only having one
>> meaning.
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>> 2. I haven't claimed dog piling at all. I defined (my own
>> interpretation) of what dog piling means to me in another message. I
>> do not feel dog piled.
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>> 3. This isn't a bum, arse difference at all because every American
>> dictionary I have been able to see online thus far gives two meanings
>> to the phrase (*without* saying the second meaning is more commonly a
>> British phrase) so its more a "I haven't experienced it" moment which
>> should mean the posts about it should have stopped long before now.
>>
>> 4. I have chosen to criticise anyone who has deliberately chosen to
>> block that second meaning out of their heads (even after my requests
>> to check out dictionaries and check context).
>>
>> 5. My aversion to a lot of things about Susan doesn't cloud my
>> judgment. People choose to ignore or justify her bad behaviour. If
>> one wants to take that stance then I enter into a debate with them
>> also.
>>
>> 6. This is not simply a language difference (apart from the fact your
>> dictionaries give two meanings also). If Susan says something
>> derogatory a number of people jump to her defence claiming language
>> difference or any other excuse. If I supposedly say something that
>> could be a language difference issue I am crucified. Name one person
>> in this thread that has said anything like oh Jan, I understand you
>> meant no harm, we didn't realise that there was another meaning other
>> than to euthanise an animal. No posts have had anything remotely
>> sincere, all have said (bar one) that it means to kill. No
>> acknowledgment of another meaning therefore no apology.
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> I'm the one who claims dogpiling because that's how I see it.
But you are really me!
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