Sqwertz > wrote:

> On 2 Jan 2012 19:12:50 GMT, Mike Muth wrote:
>
>> What most people don't realize is that posts to a newsgroup are mail
>> which is addressed to the newsgroup.
>
> That's absurd. They may have similar headers, but newsgroup posts are
> handled *completely* differently than email from start to finish.

It is the way things are. Where the servers still accept mail, you can
post to a usenet group by sending e-mail to the group. The non-usenet
google groups still supports this.

Usenet posts are indeed mail and the recipient is the newsgroup.
Because of problems with hacking, it's harder to inject that mail into
the stream than it used to be. The traffic flows over a different port
(119 unless you are doing secure nntp).

The RFC which covers the nntp protocol even says that the news server
uses "SMTP-like commands and responses."

NNTP functions in most ways like e-mail bulletin boards which were in
vogue during the 90's.

Then, there's this from RFC 850 (Standard for Interchange of USENET
Messages),

" A standard
format for mail messages has existed for many years on the
ARPANET, and this format meets most of the needs of
USENET. Since the ARPANET format is extensible,
extensions to meet the additional needs of USENET are
easily made within the ARPANET standard. Therefore, the
rule is adopted that all USENET news articles must be
formatted as valid ARPANET mail messages, according to the
ARPANET standard RFC 822."

So, deny it if you like. The standard says that a usenet post is a
valid mail message.

>> As for the news server issues, it could be denial of service, a surge
>> in updates and message traffic, maintenance issues, or comm problems.
>
> None of that makes any sense at all. Stick to cooking rather than
> technical discussions.

All of that makes sense. I was maintaining, configuring, and deploying
servers for a dozen years before you posted to Usenet. I only just
retired last year. My 25 years experience, degree in computer science,
and certifications tell me that those things could all be problems.

You just don't want to accept what I say. You really are being OCD
about me aren't you.

Deal with it.

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