New Years Day Standing Rib "sous" vide without the vacuum
"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:16:03 -0800, Pico Rico wrote:
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>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
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>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
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>>>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:45:05 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
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>>>>>> I'm not sure where the practice of starting out in a hotter over
>>>>>> got started. It seems unlikely that hof-brau restaurants who are
>>>>>> roasting beef continuously are doing this.
>>>>
>>>>>Sure they do. Sear in a smaller oven, transfer the larger oven.
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense.
>>>>
>>>>> The crust on a roast beef in imperative for flavor. Otherwise they do
>>>>> come out "steamed" (tasting and looking).
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not true that one needs to start at a higher
>>>> temperature to get a valid crust.
>>>
>>> I don't agree at all. I have cooked plenty of roasts, from ribs to
>>> whole tip sirloins. And the aforementioned method is the only method
>>> that works consistently.
>>>
>>>> But the steady-temperature method still forms a crust.
>>>
>>> It forms a dry crust, sure, but it does not form the flavor of a good
>>> seared crust. The more desirable Maillard reactions/flavor compounds
>>> require the higher heat. You won't get those at sous vide temps
>>> (which is why sous vided steaks are almost always grilled briefly).
>>
>> someone mentioned here recently about doing the opposite of your
>> preferred
>> method - low cook and then hot oven at the end to get the crust. Have
>> you
>> tried that? thoughts?
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> I prefer to do the sear while the roast is cooler. That way it has
> less a chance a penetrate the exterior and into the meat. If you do
> the sear afterwards you risk getting a larger gray rim under the crust
> since it's already warm inside. At least that's my theory. I see no
> reason to change the way I do it.
>
> Searing it at the beginning also makes the house smell better
> immediately (seared meat and spice smell). And that lasts all
> throughout the 3-5 hour cook, stimulating the appetite. Maillard
> reactions also refer to smell, not just flavor.
>
I concur. I also think the logistics of high heat at the end is harder -
take the roast out and get the oven cranked up, then put it back in?
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