On Oct 29, 9:07*pm, pure kona > wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:08:20 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
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> >On Oct 29, 12:55*pm, "Steve Freides" > wrote:
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On 10/29/2011 2:01 AM, wrote:
> >> >> On Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:46:15 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >>> I don't understand the burr grinders myself. It seems like a messy
> >> >>> way to grind coffee and the grinding surfaces will collect old
> >> >>> coffee grounds. I probably wouldn't be able to taste the old
> >> >>> grounds and oils but the idea is icky. The worst would be those
> >> >>> machines in supermarkets. I like the high speed sound of the blade
> >> >>> grinders myself.
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> >> >> The coffee purists will tell you all about heat and suchlike, but
> >> >> the fact is that nobody but possibly a few experts can tell the
> >> >> difference using the drip process with paper filters and many people
> >> >> prefer the taste of blade-ground drip coffee to burr ground anyway.
> >> >> If you're doing French Press you can _see_ a difference--the
> >> >> whirligigs don't give an even grind--you get a lot of fines that
> >> >> make it through the press and end up as sediment in your cup. *If
> >> >> you're doing Espresso then it's the difference between having
> >> >> coffee and not having coffee--the fines from the whirligig clog the
> >> >> portafilter and nothing comes out.
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> >> > Come to think of it, if one uses a French press, a burr grinder would
> >> > probably be preferable. I used paper filters so it didn't matter much
> >> > about coffee particle size. My grind came up consistently fine anyway.
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> >> Why do people use paper filters in their drip machines? *We've always
> >> used a gold filter without a paper insert and always thought the coffee
> >> tasted better that way.
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> >Paper filters are cheap and disposable. (Like most people! ;-) )
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> >John Kuthe...
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> *Paper filters IMHO leave a paper taste with the coffee. *"Gold"
> filters do not. *Do not even ask me about brown paper filters because
> they taste like paper bags + the coffee flavor.
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> Gold filters are the best if you want unadulterated coffee flavor. We
> sell flavor/aromatics so it is important to me.
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I'd use a French press in that case, and free up some counter space.