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>>>>>>> Angela is sick. I don't know what is going on. She restarted
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Metformin and is now up to 2 pills per day. Will up it to 3
>>>>>>> tomorrow. That will be 1,500.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It started with diarrhea but I don't really think this is from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Metformin because she took that dose for many days with no
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> She was also very tired, cranky and had an ear ache, sore throat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> runny nose
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She already had a Drs. appointment for the follow-up on her
>>>>>>> hand/arm
>>>>>>> twitch which had resolved. So we mentioned the other symptoms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. said she had a slightly red and swollen ear and wasn't going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do anything about it. Said that things like this resolve on
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> own in kids her age. I pointed out that the last ear infection
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> not resolve itself. It started in May and kept going until June!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So she prescribed Azytrhromycin but said not to give it to her
>>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>> she got a fever. I did anyway. But not right away. I waited 2
>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>> until she was screaming with ear pain. I didn't actually take
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> temperature because I still do not have an accurate thermometer
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> refuse to keep buying them. I have bought dozens over the years.
>>>>>>> They will show us with a fever and then we will go to the Dr.
>>>>>>> and be
>>>>>>> found to have a normal temperature. Or they show us with no
>>>>>>> fever
>>>>>>> and the Dr. says we have one! Anyway she went from feeling
>>>>>>> chilled
>>>>>>> (it was a warm day) to sweating (and by then it had cooled off).
>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>> felt hot to the touch. So that was on Sunday. She was also
>>>>>>> sleeping a lot. I had to wake her. And she was going to bed
>>>>>>> early.
>>>>>>> Neither thing is like her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She missed school on Friday. I didn't really believe she was
>>>>>>> sick
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> first. She said she had diarrhea and complained of the ear,
>>>>>>> throat
>>>>>>> and runny nose. Got right back in bed and ate nothing that day
>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>> few bites of cereal and only because I told her she had to eat
>>>>>>> something. Since then she has eaten little. Was having one bout
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> diarrhea a
>>>>>>> day. Seemed to resolve with a store brand Imodium. But then
>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>> last night she got up from bed, almost crying from stomach pain.
>>>>>>> Severe diarrhea! Took the maximum dose of the store brand
>>>>>>> Imodium
>>>>>>> which is 4 pills. First 2, then 1 then another 1. She stayed
>>>>>>> up,
>>>>>>> hovering over a bowl not sure which way she was going to get
>>>>>>> sick. I
>>>>>>> finally gave her a can of diet ginger ale and then she felt a
>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> better. I debated taking her to the Dr. again today but so far
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> diarrhea.
>>>>>>> However she says she does feel sick to her stomach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her Endo. is not in on Tuesdays. Apparently he is there early
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> morning for some kind of appointment but then he leaves. I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> know if he does surgery or what but he does not answer calls
>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>> So I didn't bother trying to call to see if this stomach stuff
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be from the Metformin. But the family practitioner she saw
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> seem to think so. Her pediatrician was booked up so she saw
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> Dr. She really hasn't been eating much. She had some gluten
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> fish
>>>>>>> sticks for breakfast and I made her a small amount of plain
>>>>>>> white
>>>>>>> rice for lunch. Neither of these things are low carb, I know.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> may have some yogurt. Not sure but if we do it will be the
>>>>>>> flavored
>>>>>>> kind. She won't eat plain. I am not sure about giving her
>>>>>>> toast.
>>>>>>> She can't eat regular bread. Normally she eats some made of
>>>>>>> corn
>>>>>>> flour which would be bad. I just got the new order. There is
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> made of tapioca. Would that work for her problem? I do have a
>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>> slices of some mixed grain, high fiber stuff. I know that would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> bad. We do have all kinds of applesauce. No bananas in the
>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>> I do have a couple of chicken breasts I could cook, plenty of
>>>>>>> canned
>>>>>>> chicken, chicken broth and also rice pasta.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this point I think I am going to worry less about carbs and
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> try to get her well. Because of her missing 3 days of school
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> now flunking history because she missed a test. They are making
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> super hard this year for kids who are absent to make up work!
>>>>>>> Her
>>>>>>> math teacher was putting their assignments online but then she
>>>>>>> suddenly stopped. So I don't know if she was sick or what.
>>>>>>> Angela
>>>>>>> said tons of kids have been sick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what do you eat when you have diarrhea? Assuming you
>>>>>>> normally
>>>>>>> eat
>>>>>>> low carb .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My mother always gave us grated apple. FWIW none of my kids, even
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> teenagers have ever thrown off an ear infection by themselves. My
>>>>>> 16
>>>>>> year old has had two in the past few months with a heavy cold.
>>>>>> Every
>>>>>> cold we seem to get lately comes with upset stomach as well.
>>>>>> Avoid
>>>>>> yoghurt, toast should be ok. Things like milk products and fats
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> make stomach upsets worse and more prolonged. I usually stop all
>>>>>> medications when I have upset stomach as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before antibiotics ear infections often led to mastoiditis. Why
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> a doctor think that process has changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't sure about the yogurt because they usually tell her to
>>>>> eat it
>>>>> with the antibiotics.
>>>>
>>>> Which is ok usually but with diarrhoea it can exacerbate it. I like
>>>> probiotic capsules.
>>>
>>> Dried blueberries if you can get them. Or thaw out frozen
>>> blueberries and
>>> dry them over low heat.
>>>
>>> Strangely enough this works against diarrhea, while fresh
>>> blueberries are a
>>> remedy for constipation. This is the European Vaccinium myrtillus, I
>>> don't
>>> know if it holds for any of the 5 different North American species
>>> ...
>>>
>>> From the net:
>>> <quote>
>>> Reportedly, dried blueberries have a long history of use in Sweden
>>> as a
>>> treatment for diarrhea. Dr. Varro Tyler in his book, Herbs of
>>> Choice,
>>> recommends either chewing dried blueberries or making a tea by
>>> boiling
>>> crushed dried blueberries for about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>> The helpfulness of blueberries for diarrhea appears to be due to the
>>> fact
>>> that they contain tannins, which act as an astringent, contracting
>>> tissue
>>> and reducing inflammation and secretion of liquids and mucus.
>>> Blueberries
>>> also contain substances called anthocyanosides, which have
>>> antibacterial
>>> properties, as well as being a good source of antioxidants. Lastly,
>>> blueberries are another source of the soluble fiber pectin.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> There's a lot more out there, I searched for "dried blueberries
>>> diarrhea".

>>
>> I like warmed up frozen blueberries over plain yoghurt as a "dessert"
>> snack. I don't particularly like fresh blueberries. If its the
>> tannins that are good then perhaps the green tea that Angela does
>> like might be good for part of her fluid intake.

>
> Except that the ER Dr. told her to lay off of the caffeine. Are there
> tannins in grapes? She has some small packages of apple slices and
> grapes. Very few grapes in each one though. Maybe 3 or 4.


If there is I would imagine grapes are contraindicated for diarrhoea so
it would defeat the purpose? I don't think there is much caffeine in tea
and I doubt Angela likes it really strong?