I tried to read there but simply found it too stressful, Lee
"W. Baker" > wrote in message
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> Ozgirl > wrote:
>
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> : "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
> : news > : > In article >,
> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote:
> : >
> : >> When Quentin spoke of opinions he was speaking of his opinion of the
> : >> studies he had researched over many years. He never had un-researched
> : >> opinions. Everyone forms their own opinions about a subject. He was
> : >> no
> : >> different in that respect. He also mentioned a number of times that
> : >> he
> : >> was trying to fill a gap. The gap left from all the talks in the
> : >> groups
> : >> about medication, exercise and diet. Diet as in high carb, low carb
> : >> etc.
> : >> Quentin and Annette both studied the individual foods as opposed to
> : >> the
> : >> food groups themselves. They did indeed fill that gap. This has led
> : >> to a
> : >> lot of people developing WOE's that weren't just "eat a lot of
> : >> protein
> : >> and fat" and avoid the starches". That can be nutritional suicide if
> : >> we
> : >> don't evaluate what goes into our mouths.
> : >
> : > I find it difficult to believe that people had to be told by someone
> : > else that 'just "eat a lot of protein and fat" and avoid the
> : > starches"'
> : > was not sufficient nutritional consideration to give to their eating.
> : >
> : > While one might primarily mention the carb/protein/fat ratios when
> : > discussing treatment of diabetes, most of the people in these groups
> : > are
> : > not idiots.
> : >
> : > PP
>
> : You don't have to be an idiot to not understand good nutrition.
> : Especially if new to dietary changes i.e. before one hears what others
> : are eating. Plus Annette and Quentin took nutrition one step further by
> : researching foods and their particular benefits, especially to
> : diabetics, some of who need to make every single bite count if they are
> : watching carbs very carefully. That's a lot different to being told what
> : veggies/fruits are low carb/low GI. I'll wager there are a lot of people
> : who don't know the value of certain low carb veggies over others. That's
> : the gap I am talking about. And if you recall anything in ASD you should
> : be able to recall that there have been many discussions about good
> : nutrition when some people have shared their low carb diets in the
> : group.
>
> Every time I eat my hambutger at a local restauant with no bun, sliced red
> onions, a bed of lettuce , a little ketchup adn a pickle I think of
> Quentin and quercetin, which he often mentioned as being in that red
> onion.
>
> The general advice that I received when finding my diabetic WOE was to eat
> a wde variety of freen and colored lnon-starchy vebetables, not only leafy
> one, but all kinds of peppers, crucfeous ones, etc. What is a shame is
> that there seems to be no spac onf ASD these days for such advice or
> comments what with the constant arguing. I fear that newbies don't get
> what they need about the vegetably diet that marked the lower carb diet
> so many of us found so useful. It works and made so many of us well
> controlled and healthy, bu tnow seems to alwasy be codemnedby ssorted
> people.
>
> We all had different ways of working this, from Jana's 6 small meals
> which spread her carbs out and included all kinds of vegetables, to Alan's
> low spike, wiwth his belived meusli at night,etc. Where have all these
> useful discussions gone?
>
> Wendy
>