Julie Bove > wrote:

: "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
: ...
: >
: >
: > "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
: > news : >> In article >,
: >> "Ozgirl" > wrote:
: >>
: >>> When Quentin spoke of opinions he was speaking of his opinion of the
: >>> studies he had researched over many years. He never had un-researched
: >>> opinions. Everyone forms their own opinions about a subject. He was
: >>> no
: >>> different in that respect. He also mentioned a number of times that
: >>> he
: >>> was trying to fill a gap. The gap left from all the talks in the
: >>> groups
: >>> about medication, exercise and diet. Diet as in high carb, low carb
: >>> etc.
: >>> Quentin and Annette both studied the individual foods as opposed to
: >>> the
: >>> food groups themselves. They did indeed fill that gap. This has led
: >>> to a
: >>> lot of people developing WOE's that weren't just "eat a lot of
: >>> protein
: >>> and fat" and avoid the starches". That can be nutritional suicide if
: >>> we
: >>> don't evaluate what goes into our mouths.
: >>
: >> I find it difficult to believe that people had to be told by someone
: >> else that 'just "eat a lot of protein and fat" and avoid the
: >> starches"'
: >> was not sufficient nutritional consideration to give to their eating.
: >>
: >> While one might primarily mention the carb/protein/fat ratios when
: >> discussing treatment of diabetes, most of the people in these groups
: >> are
: >> not idiots.
: >>
: >> PP
: >
: > You don't have to be an idiot to not understand good nutrition.
: > Especially if new to dietary changes i.e. before one hears what others
: > are eating. Plus Annette and Quentin took nutrition one step further by
: > researching foods and their particular benefits, especially to
: > diabetics, some of who need to make every single bite count if they are
: > watching carbs very carefully. That's a lot different to being told what
: > veggies/fruits are low carb/low GI. I'll wager there are a lot of people
: > who don't know the value of certain low carb veggies over others. That's
: > the gap I am talking about. And if you recall anything in ASD you should
: > be able to recall that there have been many discussions about good
: > nutrition when some people have shared their low carb diets in the
: > group.

: Indeed! Angela and I went to the low carb store again today. Oh and thanks
: to the Boston's pizza delivery guy who parked (not in a spot) and directly
: behind my van. Of course the guy parked next to me was fast asleep. Had
: that spot been open I may have been able to (or maybe not) maneuver my car
: over that way so I could have gotten out. So I was stuck sitting there for
: close to an hour. I had no clue who the car belonged to or where to go
: looking for them. There are all sorts of businesses around there and it is
: a shared lot. But I digress...

: Anyway, they had a whole aisle of Atkin's products in that store. Many (if
: not all) of those things are loaded with soy and probably sugar alcohols.
: But I know plenty of people who think they are eating a healthy diet if they
: eat those along with their meat. It's sad.

I find the pancake mix very good and useful to me a a treat breakfast .
Of course, it uses a fresh egg whichis out for you, Julie, but having a
litle of that kind of thing really helps maintain a life-lone diabetic
diet for many. Soy is also not a problem for me and I often like to get a
tofu dish when I treat myself to a Chinese lunch out at my favortie place
that knows to make my food without cornstarch or sugar and, althugh they
no longer usually serve it, bring me a full pot of tea, because they know
I like it. For many of us they can be a help. I con't look for all those
protein bars, etc, but some of the special stuff can be nice to have
available. Also useufl for transitioning from a regular diet to a lower
carb one.

Wendy