Ozgirl > wrote:


: "Peppermint Patootie" > wrote in message
: news : > In article >,
: > "Ozgirl" > wrote:
: >
: >> When Quentin spoke of opinions he was speaking of his opinion of the
: >> studies he had researched over many years. He never had un-researched
: >> opinions. Everyone forms their own opinions about a subject. He was
: >> no
: >> different in that respect. He also mentioned a number of times that
: >> he
: >> was trying to fill a gap. The gap left from all the talks in the
: >> groups
: >> about medication, exercise and diet. Diet as in high carb, low carb
: >> etc.
: >> Quentin and Annette both studied the individual foods as opposed to
: >> the
: >> food groups themselves. They did indeed fill that gap. This has led
: >> to a
: >> lot of people developing WOE's that weren't just "eat a lot of
: >> protein
: >> and fat" and avoid the starches". That can be nutritional suicide if
: >> we
: >> don't evaluate what goes into our mouths.
: >
: > I find it difficult to believe that people had to be told by someone
: > else that 'just "eat a lot of protein and fat" and avoid the
: > starches"'
: > was not sufficient nutritional consideration to give to their eating.
: >
: > While one might primarily mention the carb/protein/fat ratios when
: > discussing treatment of diabetes, most of the people in these groups
: > are
: > not idiots.
: >
: > PP

: You don't have to be an idiot to not understand good nutrition.
: Especially if new to dietary changes i.e. before one hears what others
: are eating. Plus Annette and Quentin took nutrition one step further by
: researching foods and their particular benefits, especially to
: diabetics, some of who need to make every single bite count if they are
: watching carbs very carefully. That's a lot different to being told what
: veggies/fruits are low carb/low GI. I'll wager there are a lot of people
: who don't know the value of certain low carb veggies over others. That's
: the gap I am talking about. And if you recall anything in ASD you should
: be able to recall that there have been many discussions about good
: nutrition when some people have shared their low carb diets in the
: group.

Every time I eat my hambutger at a local restauant with no bun, sliced red
onions, a bed of lettuce , a little ketchup adn a pickle I think of
Quentin and quercetin, which he often mentioned as being in that red
onion.

The general advice that I received when finding my diabetic WOE was to eat
a wde variety of freen and colored lnon-starchy vebetables, not only leafy
one, but all kinds of peppers, crucfeous ones, etc. What is a shame is
that there seems to be no spac onf ASD these days for such advice or
comments what with the constant arguing. I fear that newbies don't get
what they need about the vegetably diet that marked the lower carb diet
so many of us found so useful. It works and made so many of us well
controlled and healthy, bu tnow seems to alwasy be codemnedby ssorted
people.

We all had different ways of working this, from Jana's 6 small meals
which spread her carbs out and included all kinds of vegetables, to Alan's
low spike, wiwth his belived meusli at night,etc. Where have all these
useful discussions gone?

Wendy