Chemiker > wrote:
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>ball by hand. I found tha both the KA and the Zoji overbeat/knead the
>dough, which is OK if you want a fine crumb. I prefer the Ciabatta
>type open crumb, which IMHO must be done by hand.

You want a quick Ciabatta with an open crumb? Done completely with
the machine?

How's this look?
http://i52.tinypic.com/33usfmg.jpg

It is a high hydration mix, beat for 15-30 minutes on my KA on #4.

Here's the original recipe from 2004-
https://groups.google.com/group/alt....5cc8dbb869544b

tinied-
http://tinyurl.com/6dtf2pz

I've done it a few times and it has come out perfect each time.

>
>Also, if you come to love your KA and want to add accessories like a
>pasta roller, meat grinder or electric welder, then go for the 6. Know
>in advance: to make 1 lb loaves for 2 on occasion, you will find the 6
>qt bowl a little too large. YMMV.
>

Could you explain that a bit. I haven't noticed it but maybe I'm
missing something. I've done single loaves with my 6qt.

Jim