On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:44:02 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 24/07/2011 9:36 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> I have to admit that taking a set of statistics and removing anything
>>>> that doesn't fit into your pre-conceived opinion so you can claim the
>>>> results support your position is a novel way of discussing things.
>>>>
>>>> I think Pete C would be a good politician.
>>>>
>>>> George L
>>>
>>> You left wing kooks do by far the most distorting of statistics, such as
>>> absurdly trying to include 18-20 year old gang members in with children
>>> in order to claim that there are huge number of child gun deaths when
>>> the reality is there are exceedingly few.
>>
>> No, they have it right. You can't try to remove some demographics from
>> your appalling firearm homicide rate and then try to suggest that once
>> you knock off a large chunk of the incidents your rate is no worse than
>> others. According to the CDC, there were 12,632 firearms homicides in
>> the US, a rate of 4.2 per 100,000. Canada's rate is 0.3 per 100,000. The
>> US firearm homicide rates is 8.1 times higher than Canada. The handgun
>> homicide rate is 15/3 times higher than Canada's. Even the rate of no
>> firearm homicide is almost double Canada's.
>
> 18-20 year olds are *not* children, to try to count them as such is
> blatantly fraudulent.

what the **** are you talking about 'children'? the stats were for murder.

blake