blake murphy wrote:
> Pete C. wrote:
>
>> Armed law
>> abiding citizens have however successfully defended themselves against
>> criminals many millions of times.
>
> bullshit. i would like to see a cite for 'many millions of times.'

There are reporting services that search for such reports, such as the
magazines from the NRA. Of course their editorials and other articles
are biased and sometimes not verifiable but their incident reports are
carefully verifed. They need to be because plenty of people would be
quick to condemn them for false reporting.

They report multiple incidents per month. The vast majority of reported
incidents are preventive. The law abiding citizen shows the weapon and
the criminal flees.

Millions of times is an exaggeration. Per year country wide in the US
would be in the hundreds using reported events, with a reasonable guess
of thousands of unreported events.

Use of a gun by a law abiding citizen is very rare. Most who own them
never use them except in practice. Most who carry them never even show
them. Never in their entire lives. Which is of course what gun
ownership is supposed to be like. Preventive and rare. But if you ever
do need it there's a high chance of dying without it.