George wrote:
>
> On 7/17/2011 10:50 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 7:29 pm, Nad > wrote:
> >> "Pete > wrote:
> >>> Mark Thorson wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> But what about the other people's rights. How about the rights for
> >>>>> minorities or *** rights? It seems that when people are concerned
> >>>>> about their rights, for some reason the first thing they come up with is
> >>>>> gun rights.
> >>
> >>>> And now lightbulbs. Michelle Bachman won't let the
> >>>> commies take away our lightbulbs.
> >>
> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2008447
> >>
> >>> I like CFLs, they save me money so I can buy more guns...
> >>
> >> I like CFLs, they save me money so I can buy more butter...
> >>
> >
> > How do I hate thee, CFL -- let me count the ways.. CFLs last no longer
> > at my house than incandescents do. A three-way CFL, made by GE, burst
> > into flames in my floor lamp. I broke a twisty bulb moving a
> > torchiere, turning my living room into a HazMat scene. They
> > specifically are marked "Not for outdoor use."
>
> They were total junk when they first came out and like anything else in
> high volume production they learned how to make improvements. I can't
> remember the last time I changed a bad one. And the big thing they
> overcame was the slow startup. Now you turn them on and they are at full
> brightness.

I've been using mostly CFLs for a good 8 years, in that time I have
replaced about four CFLs that have died, three of old age after 6+ years
each, and one that was inadvertently killed by a half wave dimmer. I
really don't know what could be behind the short CFL life some people
seem to get, certainly I'm not buying any exotic CFLs. The people with
short CFL life may have underlying problems with their electrical
service.

I've yet to break a CFL, and even if I did it hardly qualifies as a
HazMat scene unless you happen to have a toddler crawling around. I've
not had any CFLs burst into flames either. My CFLs all start in a tiny
fraction of a second, so tiny that you can't detect a delay if the CFL
is on a quiet switch like a Decora. My CFLs start at about 90%
brightness and are up to 100% within about 10 seconds. The color
temperatures are also vastly improved from the very early CFLs.