On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:48:35 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:45:21 -0800, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:40:42 -0500, "Tim923" > wrote:
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and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
>>>message news:20110222MHR4EUr9PmmOjKUZfIMbILk@pAfPU...
>>>> Chapter 43: T he Meat-Free Life
>>>>
>>>> Description:
>>>>
>>>> Five Reasons to Be a Vegetarian & Ten Arguments Against Eating Meat
>>>
>>>I don't think about it that much. I just find meat unappetizing. The less
>>>I ate of it, the less I wanted it.
>>
>> There are people who like eating meat but feel so badly about doing so that
>>they become veg*n.
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>...that they start cooking up ****witted illogical bullshit rationales
>to justify it - like, the animals "benefit" by existing before they are
>killed.
>
>You, for example.

Some animals benefit from it and others don't Goober, but eliminationists
necessarily can't make a distinction between which do and which do not because
being honest about the fact that some do works against the elimination
objective. Those of us who favor decent AW over elimination can and do
appreciate when livestock appear to have lives of positive value for the
animals. In fact as we've seen it is ONLY eliminationists who have reason to
oppose appreciation for that particular aspect of the situation, and all
eliminationists must necessarily be opposed to it. No one else...ONLY
eliminationists.

>>Those are the people who are a shame to see. People like
>>yourself who just don't like meat and are honest about that, THEN you develope
>>the guilt thing too, makes a bit more sense. You can honestly say you don't care
>>that it contributes to more deaths to eat tofu than it does to eat grass raised
>>beef, or that it contributes to a lot more deaths to drink rice milk than cow
>>milk, especially grass raised. You probably would never be so honest, but you
>>COULD be. A person who becomes veg*n for supposedly ethical reasons but does
>>like the taste of animal products wouldn't have that excuse to fall back on.