"Orlando Enrique Fiol" > wrote in message
. ..
> Ellen K. > wrote:
>>Based on the above I will not be including any grain carbs in future
>>breakfasts. With just the cheese and veggies I would NEVER get up to 176,
>>and usually by 90 minutes I am at or below the pre-breakfast value.
>>So, valuable experiment, I learned more about how my body works.
>>Comments welcome.
>
> What's the highest medically tolerated BG value for you to live without
> future
> complications?

According to several sources, damage starts at 140.

> From your other posts about Shabat bread, hand washing and
> prayer recitation, I'd say your body is telling you that it can barely
> tolerate
> any grains.

It's true that I don't tolerate grains well. Based on this morning's test,
I would say I can't tolerate them at all in the morning. However, late in
the day I can eat a low-carb tortilla (which does contain grain), (it has 10
gm carbs of which 7 are fiber, so 3 gm net carbs) with no problem.

> Either you resign yourself to high BG values or give up grains in
> all forms. I understand that as an observant Jew, this is difficult for
> you to
> do. But, it's slightly heartbreaking to see you trying to bargain this
> much
> with your body.

The half-a-rye-matzo for the sabbath meals does not do what the quarter did
this morning, but it doesn't seem to be completely benign either, although
it's a little hard to separate out the effects. For example, usually I go
to sleep earlier on Friday night than during the week, so more time elapses
until I check my FBG Saturday morning... so it may be higher just because
more time has elapsed, not because I ate the half a matzo the night before.
What I am thinking to try next is to come up with a recipe that will still
count as bread for the purposes discussed in the thread about eating bread
on the sabbath, but have the same BG effect as the low-carb tortillas. I
need to get clearer on a few technical issues such as what percentage of
such a recipe has to be FLOUR from one of the five specified grains, e.g.
would "oat fiber" (anybody know if this is the same as oat bran???) count
the same as oat flour, etc. I think if oat fiber counts the same as oat
flour I could create something that would meet both my religious and health
needs.

>
> Orlando