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>>>>>>>> On 9/3/2010 4:39 PM, Ellen K. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:25:42 -0700, "Ellen K."
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>>>>>>>>>>> It needs CARBS to turn it off in the morning?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the mechanism is to turn off the release of glucose from the
>>>>>>>>>> liver, by having just the right amount of carbs coming in from
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> digestion.
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Today instead of my usual romaine lettuce, I tried a whole raw
>>>>>>>>> green
>>>>>>>>> pepper with my cheese, i.e. about 5 gm net carbs instead of 2.
>>>>>>>>> Here are
>>>>>>>>> my numbers:
>>>>>>>>> 5:58 98 This is shortly after getting up, and incidentally my
>>>>>>>>> lowest FBG
>>>>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>>>>> 6:33 104 Right before breakfast. Finished the food at 7:08.
>>>>>>>>> 7:53 137 45 minutes after finishing the food, missed testing at
>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>> now think is my peak of 35 minutes because I was in the middle of
>>>>>>>>> something for work.
>>>>>>>>> 8:18 133 70 minutes
>>>>>>>>> After this didn't test again till 11:08, four hours after the
>>>>>>>>> food,
>>>>>>>>> which was 104.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So while 137 is under the magic 140, it's still 33 points up from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> pre-breakfast value, and was probably not even the peak, although
>>>>>>>>> considering that the next 25 minutes resulted in a reduction of
>>>>>>>>> only 4
>>>>>>>>> points, maybe the peak wasn't much higher than the 137.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
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>>>>>>>> My only thought is that cheese and a green pepper should not spike
>>>>>>>> you like that. My suggestion is that you may need professional
>>>>>>>> intervention.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think the food spiked me, I think the dawn phenomenon just
>>>>>>> keeps going up.
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>>>>>> Then try 1/2 slice of rye bread or equivalent carbs in rye crackers
>>>>>> plus the fat/protein and see what happens.
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>>>>> Just want to be sure I understand what you're suggesting, add
>>>>> approximately 10 g grain-based carbs to the green veggie & cheese?
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>>>> Yep. Although 1/2 a slice of the rye breads I get would be about 7-8 gr
>>>> net carb. So that would be about 10gr including the pepper.
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>>> I had the pepper at 5 (7 minus 2), I have some rye matzo here which has
>>> 22 (24 -2) for a whole one, I was thinking a half, but since it looks
>>> like you're suggesting to try for around 10 total, maybe I should try a
>>> quarter.
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>> Sounds reasonable. You will either go much higher with the matzo or stay
>> around the same pre meal bg. If you stay the same then you probably
>> weren't turning off DP with the previous meals.
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> OK, thanks very much! I'll report back.

Got up very late today, FBG was already 136, pre-breakfast value 135, I felt
the test would not be valid under these conditions, hoping to try tomorrow.