On Jun 12, 10:58�pm, DaleW > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 5:19�pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
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> > On 6/11/10 4:28 PM, DaleW wrote:
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> > > Recently I've had good showings on old Barolos from "second tier"
> > > producers. But what about Barolo from �a good-but-not-great vintage
> > > from a 3rd (or 4th) tier producer?
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> > > Yesterday I had a couple errands in the city, when to Chambers St to
> > > pick up a mixed case I had waiting, and to briefly say hello to
> > > Oswaldo who was in town overnight (and who very generously gave me a
> > > bottle of Scholium Project!). While I parked by hydrant, CSW staff
> > > threw my wine in van, and I had a sec to chat with Oswaldo. He was
> > > looking in the sale bin, and said "hey, they've got 1982 Barolo in
> > > here for $25." Hey, great store, good looking bottle, who's going to
> > > let a little detail like not knowing the producer stop me? So I bought
> > > a bottle (even got the case discount), and I think Oswaldo bought
> > > another.
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> > You'd better open that bottle of Scholium before deciding whether
> > Oswaldo was doing you any favors or not ;-)
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> > > I stopped by house about noon and left wines on counter. Normally I
> > > believe in 24 hours upright if possible, but when it came time for
> > > dinner (duck breast in a red wine/demiglace sauce over salad) I gave
> > > Betsy the choice of older Barolo or younger Burg, she said Barolo, and
> > > I opened the 1982 Tenuta Montanello (Monchiero) Barolo. Good cork,
> > > clean label (probably recent),. Yeah, a bit murky, more time to rest
> > > after travel would have been wise. A bit of brown/orange to the color,
> > > but nice Nebbiolo nose of cherries, violets and tar, with some citrus
> > > zest. On the palate however it seemed a bit tired, meager red fruit
> > > with the acids sticking out a bit. However, never count out Nebbiolo.
> > > Hey, second pour has more vigor and fruit, and third is a slight
> > > improvement over that. A small glass about 10 (I think opened around
> > > 7) is best of all- there's nothing profound or complex here, but �a
> > > solid mature midweight with cherries, roses, a bit of forest floor and
> > > tar. Still an edge of tiredness, but fun, and well worth my $22.50
> > > plus tax. There's a good glass plus left, we'll see if it survived the
> > > night. B
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> > Nice story, Dale! �There are quite a few people I know who feel that
> > Jamie at CSW is one of the true experts on Italian wines in NYC, so I'd
> > never bet against his judgment. �While Astor or PJ might have greater
> > variety of Italians, CSW's selection is, in my limited experience,
> > uniformly high quality.
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> > Mark Lipton
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> I'm well aware that Oswaldo didn't like the Scholium, and the wines
> are controversial/idiosyncratic. I've liked one white, not so much 2
> others, but always interesting. Never had a red, was willing to pay
> for this, but Oswaldo wouldn't take money (I did give him a bottle)
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> Jamie has a great rep for Italians, but on other hand this was
> apparently somethign they put in closeout for cheap rather than
> instock. So I don't think he was recommending it!- Hide quoted text -
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The whites that I've had were oxidized and skunky, the reds dirty and
funky.....