In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> >> I am hoping that it will. He is a nice dog. He is very loving and
> >> friendly. I am not used to having a dog that I cannot trust off a leash.
> >> He is better with the remote training collar, but as soon as I remove
> >> it he turns deaf.
> >
> > Bummer. To date, I've only ever had to use a remote collar to train the
> > corgie from nuisance barking. Since it has a tone setting, I'd use the
> > tone first. After 3 tries, the tone alone worked.
>
> It was a last resort. This collar was not cheap, but it has a range of
> 1000 yards. It has two signals. One is a beeping tone for rewards, so
> you first have to give that on along with a treats. I use pieces of
> cheap wieners. When he comes when called he gets a treat, and he gets
> reward signals for heading in the right direction. The shock is
> adjustable and he gets just enough to get his attention. If he continues
> to disobey the shock can be cranked up. There is an upper limit, and
> there is a time limit built on.

Sounds similar to mine. 9 shock settings and I use the lowest setting
that gets her attention without making her yelp. Since I used the tone
as a warning prior to the shock, she learned to respond to just the
tone. I hate shock collars but as you say, they are a last resort.
Mine has a remote that is powerful enough to go thru the windows so she
did not associate it with me.

Rewards are given with obedience to voice commands and hand signals.

> > I hope he works out for you! You are using training treats for recall
> > training? Cheese bits or peanut butter treats have served me well. :-)
>
> Most of the time he is very well behaved. He gets all worked up when
> people come to the house and when he sees other dogs or cats. He was
> barely trained when we got him 5 months ago, but he has come a long way.
> He usually walks well on a leash and will now heel off leash... for a
> while. That being said, he has broken a heavy choke chain and a spiked
> training collar. Yesterday I picked up an extra heavy duty choke chain.
> It was hard to find on that strong in his size. The guy at the pet chop
> was surprised to see the broken ring on the end.

I've never tried the spiked collar. Have you tried a head collar? That
worked well for stopping the border collie from lunging on leash.
They are considered to be a very humane training tool. Jewely hates it
but it works. I've recommended head collars to more than one person and
they've been happy with how well they work. Nylon is also stronger than
metal. <g>

>
> Yesterday I was watching some YouTube videos on Malinois and there was
> one where the dog popped a choke chain. The comment made by the owner
> was the same as mine when Sonny broke his.... Wow, he didn't even flinch.

They are small but powerful dogs. ;-) Watching Odin, the local patrol
mailinois work, can be almost frightening!
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