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On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:40:31 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:

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><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:07:39 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>
>>><dh@.> wrote
>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:03:29 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>And the fact that billions experience lives of negative value works for
>>>>>AR.
>>>>>
>>>>>Who wins?
>>>>
>>>> Livestock who get to experience decent lives of positive
>>>> value and humane deaths appear to win
>>>
>>>Does it really?

>>
>> Yes THEY do. You just can't allow yourself to comprehend the
>> fact any more, IF you were ever able to at all.
>>
>>>How did you figure that?

>>
>> It appears to be true for all sentient creatures.
>>
>>>How many many decent animal lives
>>>does it take to cancel a bleak, miserable life?

>>
>> That's a different subject, and one you can't begin to
>> consider in any detail until you get more comfortable admitting
>> that some livestock do have lives of positive value. Remember
>> that up until this point you couldn't even consider that aspect
>> for humans or anything else, but if you can now consider it for
>> any creatures at all then try to get somewhere with it.....

>
>We are morally culpable for causing animals to suffer, we're not entitled to
>moral credit because they "experience life", the fact has no moral
>significance.


You failed entirely. Again I encourage you to try to get
somewhere...