On Feb 2, 1:48*am, Wildbilly > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *jim c > wrote:
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> > On Jan 20, 1:59*am, wrote:
> > > A guide? I would say try to get the PH between 3.2 and *3.4 for a
> > > fruit wine with sugar added.
>
> > > On Jan 19, 10:05*am, jim c > wrote:
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> > > > I know that you can't ever definitively state the characteristics of
> > > > wines as there are so many factors and subjective noses and palettes
> > > > on the subject. *Saying all this, does anyone know of a resource which
> > > > attempts to list norms, usual values or recommendations of acid levels
> > > > for each country wine or classic grape wine?
>
> > > > I'm just interested in general. *My specific concern is (as per my
> > > > reply to Jim's post above) for my Elderberry / Blackberry wines which
> > > > are all too acidic, a guide value would be very helpful as I attempt
> > > > to remedy the problem over 8 x 5 gallon batches...
>
> > > > Any help gratefully received as ever...
>
> > By the way, I presume that *pH of around 3.3 is workable for a red
> > fruit wine with no sugar added too?
>
> > Cheers, Jim
>
> 3.4 to 3.7 is my comfort zone for a dry wine table wines but taste your
> way to your results. For sippin' wines, you may want the pH a little
> higher (maybe to 4.0). After 4.0, wines lack fruit, and taste flat (to
> my taste). Wines are like steaks. Nobody can tell you how you like it.
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No I agree - if they did I'd have to roll my eyes. I like my wines
dry, fairly tannic and hearty usually. Having guide figures is useful
before taking the plunge. I am really hoping that after tasting again
and pH testing I decide I can live with the levels - messing it around
might be more of a nuisance and let down than having it slightly sour,
but I will step into the dark shortly and see what I can see. At
least the guide figures I have now can acts as a candle and are
corroborated elsewhere online.

Jim