On Dec 29, 7:30*pm, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
> > On Dec 24, 12:17 pm, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> DC wrote:
> >>> NY Times
> >>> In his new book, “Eating Animals” (Amazon.com:
> >>>http://snurl.com/EatAni), the novelist Jonathan Safran
> >>> Foer describes his gradual transformation from omnivorous,
> >>> oblivious slacker who “waffled among any number of diets”
> >>> to “committed vegetarian.” Last month, Gary Steiner, a
> >>> philosopher at Bucknell University, argued on the Op-Ed
> >>> page of The New York Timeshttp://snurl.com/ttw8wthat
> >>> people should strive to be “strict ethical vegans” like
> >>> himself, avoiding all products derived from animals,
> >>> including wool and silk. Killing animals for human food and
> >>> finery is nothing less than “outright murder,” he said...
> >>> But before we cede the entire moral penthouse to “committed
> >>> vegetarians” and “strong ethical vegans,” we might consider
> >>> that plants no more aspire to being stir-fried in a wok
> >>> than a hog aspires to being peppercorn-studded in my
> >>> Christmas clay pot. This is not meant as a trite argument
> >>> or a chuckled aside. Plants are lively and seek to keep it
> >>> that way. The more that scientists learn about the
> >>> complexity of plants — their keen sensitivity to the
> >>> environment, the speed with which they react to changes in
> >>> the environment, and the extraordinary number of tricks
> >>> that plants will rally to fight off attackers and solicit
> >>> help from afar — the more impressed researchers become, and
> >>> the less easily we can dismiss plants as so much fiberfill
> >>> backdrop...
> >>> Continued:http://snurl.com/ttw97
> >> "vegans" are not "more ethical" for refusing to consume animal products.
> >> * In fact, the very fact of being "vegan" is an indication that the
> >> person describing himself as such is morally bankrupt, because
> >> "veganism" isn't about doing the right thing at all; it's purely about
> >> making an invidious, sanctimonious comparison with others and then
> >> patting oneself on the back.
>
> > I have been a vegan for most of my life and I do it to promote caloric
> > restriction and good old hunger from the gut.
>
> Then you're not a "vegan". *"vegan" = [so-called] "ethical vegetarian".
>
> If you're not doing it for alleged ethical reasons, then you're not a
> "vegan", you're something else - perhaps a health-fetish vegetarian or
> something like that.

No. A vegan is someone who don't eat animal products nor grains and
seeds, nor mucus snot milk, no no, a vegan is almost always skinny
fatman.

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