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Default "veganism" isn't what it purports to be

On Dec 29, 3:56*pm, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 10:56 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Dec 29, 2:45 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 27, 8:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Dutch wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Ha" > wrote
> >>>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
> >>>>>>>>> * * If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>>>> * * I don't consume any animal products;
> >>>>>>>>> * * therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>>> All vegans?
> >>>>>>>> rather a sweeping statement!
> >>>>>>> You can replace "All vegans" with "Vegans" (in general) and not lose the
> >>>>>>> validity of the message.
> >>>>>>> Are you implicitly agreeing with the message but claiming to be an
> >>>>>>> exception?
> >>>>>> I don't have any problem making the assertion "all vegans". *They do
> >>>>>> *all* begin by believing that being "vegan" equates to living a
> >>>>>> "cruelty-free" or "death-free" lifestyle.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> False. I have never believed that.
> >>>> You have.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> Well, whatever the truth of the matter is, I would certainly know.
> >> We both know you began by believing in the fallacy.

>
> > No, I know I didn't,

>
> You did.


Yawn.