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Default "veganism" isn't what it purports to be

Rupert wrote:
> On Dec 29, 10:56 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> wrote:
>> Rupert wrote:
>>> On Dec 29, 2:45 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 27, 8:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>> "Ha" > wrote
>>>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
>>>>>>>>> If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>>>>> I don't consume any animal products;
>>>>>>>>> therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>>>> All vegans?
>>>>>>>> rather a sweeping statement!
>>>>>>> You can replace "All vegans" with "Vegans" (in general) and not lose the
>>>>>>> validity of the message.
>>>>>>> Are you implicitly agreeing with the message but claiming to be an
>>>>>>> exception?
>>>>>> I don't have any problem making the assertion "all vegans". They do
>>>>>> *all* begin by believing that being "vegan" equates to living a
>>>>>> "cruelty-free" or "death-free" lifestyle.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>> False. I have never believed that.
>>>> You have.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Well, whatever the truth of the matter is, I would certainly know.

>> We both know you began by believing in the fallacy.

>
> No, I know I didn't,


You did.