On Dec 29, 11:13*am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 10:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Dec 29, 2:46 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 27, 8:49 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ha wrote:
> >>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
> >>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
> >>>>>>>> * * If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>>> * * I don't consume any animal products;
> >>>>>>>> * * therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>> All vegans?
> >>>>>> Without exception. *They all start with that, and many - probably most -
> >>>>>> never move off it. *Look at the myriad "vegan" web sites that extol
> >>>>>> "veganism" as a means of living a "cruelty-free" or "death-free"
> >>>>>> lifestyle. *Those people, by necessary implication, believe in the
> >>>>>> logical fallacy.
> >>>>> It's probably fair to say that it is quite widespread
> >>>> Universal, at the outset. *Most never abandon it.
> >>> See the discussion in my other post.
> >> See my well established fact, above: *All "vegans" begin by believing in
> >> the logical fallacy, and most never abandon it.
>
> > No, "well established fact" is not the phrase you were looking for
>
> Indeed it is what I was looking for.

Well, that's a shame, because actually it's a false claim, which you
asserted on the basis of no particular evidence.