On Dec 29, 10:56*am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 2:45 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Dec 27, 8:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Dutch wrote:
> >>>>> "Ha" > wrote
> >>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
> >>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
> >>>>>>> * * If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>> * * I don't consume any animal products;
> >>>>>>> * * therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>> All vegans?
> >>>>>> rather a sweeping statement!
> >>>>> You can replace "All vegans" with "Vegans" (in general) and not lose the
> >>>>> validity of the message.
> >>>>> Are you implicitly agreeing with the message but claiming to be an
> >>>>> exception?
> >>>> I don't have any problem making the assertion "all vegans". *They do
> >>>> *all* begin by believing that being "vegan" equates to living a
> >>>> "cruelty-free" or "death-free" lifestyle.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> False. I have never believed that.
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> > Well, whatever the truth of the matter is, I would certainly know.
>
> We both know you began by believing in the fallacy.

No, I know I didn't, and you apparently think you know I did, but you
are sadly deluded, as is not uncommon. You should just start being a
bit more selective about what you claim to "know". You very frequently
claim to "know" things which are utter nonsense and which you
obviously do not have the slightest reason to believe. You should do
something about it.