In article >, Mark Lipton >
wrote:

> Over the last few nights, we've opened a couple of interesting bottles
> that I've neglected to write up. Two nights ago, with a dinner of roast
> chicken, I opened:
>
> 2008 Clos Roche Blanche "Cuvée Pif"
> nose: red fruits, leafy
> palate: tight, young, moderate tannins, red fruit
>
> Very tight right now, this shows great promise for the next few years.
> Alas, sealed with a plastic cork, so I won't be aging it too long.
>
> Last night, with a meal of leftover risotto Milanese and chicken, Jean
> opened a recent purchase:
>
> 2007 Stadlman Rotgipfler "Tagelsteiner" (Thermenregion)
> nose: powerful, tropical fruit, pineapple (Jean gets overwhelming petrol
> -- not me!)
> palate: thick, viscous, almost oily, very fruity, modest acidity
>
> My first ever Rotgipfler, it struck me as a cross between a New World
> Pinot Gris and Viognier. Quite heavy feeling, it had just enough
> acidity to be cleansing. I can see why this is usually blended with
> Zierfandler, though.
>
> Mark Lipton

I have recently opened several Cotes du Rhones with Stelvin tops. I
assume no aging with them either.