K wrote:
> John Mayson wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, K wrote:
>>
>>> John Mayson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, K wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For starters, Jackson was not a vegetarian.
>>>
>>> Proof?
>>
>> The burden of proof lies with the person who made the original claim
>> he was a vegetarian.
>
> You're the one claiming he wasn't a vegetarian. I already posted a link
> at the beginning of the thread to the source that claims he wasn't one.
Sorry, miskeyed - to the source that claims he was one.
A year ago, he was gaunt and using a wheelchair, but in preparation
for a 50-show run in London, he was exercising with a trainer in
addition to daylong rehearsals with dancers half his age. He also was
a strict vegetarian."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...jackson-2.html
You're claiming he wasn't one. The burden of proof is on you to show
that he wasn't. Shut up and get busy.
>
> You're the one making the unsupported claim: "Jackson was not a
> vegetarian". Support your claim, or admit you can't support it.
>
>
>>>>> Meanwhile, I've had the good fortune to be acquainted with over
>>>>> half a dozen people over the last several years who have lived into
>>>>> their 90s and are or were /extremely/ healthy and vibrant. All of
>>>>> them are omnivores. They ate meat, and everything else, in moderation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moderate amounts of meat, coupled with abstinence from vices like
>>>>> alcohol, tobacco and other drugs, will help you live a long and
>>>>> healthy life.
>>>>
>>>> I know people who ate meat, who lived a long time, but the last two
>>>> decades of their lives absolutely sucked thanks to cancer, heart
>>>> disease, diabetes, and such. Sorry, but that's not living.
>>>
>>> None of that can be blamed on meat consumption /per/ /se/, and I
>>> think you know it. You just commited the /post/ /hoc/ fallacy, big
>>> time.
>>
>> If I "knew it" I wouldn't have posted anything to the contrary. I
>> posted it because it's true.
>
> You don't have any support for it. You cannot substantiate your
> implicit claim that meat consumption /caused/ those ailments. You
> believe it, but only for ideological reasons.