On Jun 27, 11:27*am, Fred > wrote:

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> >>> Eating meat in moderate amounts won't harm your health, either. *Meat is
> >>> an excellent source of protein, some minerals and other nutrients.
>
> >> And you have to kill to get it
>
> > Not a problem.
>
> * * * * Well, unless you're a psychopath, it is.

Having to kill for your food does not make one a psychopath. We all
kill living things to eat, vegans included. Unless you somehow manage
to subsist on salt alone, everything you eat was once alive.

> >> and it comes laced with residues of growth
> >> hormones and anti-biotics and red dyes that the butcher adds to make it
> >> look good, and heaven knows what else.
>
> > No, none of that is necessary, and quite a lot of meat doesn't contain
> > any of that.
>
> * * * * Yeah it does. unless you buy organic meat, and how many people do?

In the UK that is pretty common, with all the major retailers offering
organic meat and produce.

> >> No thanks I'll never eat meat again.
>
> > That's your choice. *However, most of your reasons for not eating it,
> > particularly the slaughter of the animals, are specious.
>
> * * * * Humanist. *Caring people don't eat meat.

********. Humanist means one who has studied the humanities.

The only time caring comes to play in what you eat is when you make
certain that your food had a good life and was killed humanely. Easy
enough to do.

Since hominids have adapted to meat-eating long before Homo Sapiens
came along, I do not see any reason to alter my diet, especially when
doing so would mean having to take artificial supplements as vegans
have to do. That little fact alone reveals that a vegan diet is not an
ideal diet for humans. An ideal diet for any species will not need any
supplements, as the micronutrients are provided by the diet.