On Wed, 6 May 2009 23:30:32 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:

>
><dh@.> wrote
>> Considering the animals' lives is a necessary part of
>> evaluating whether or not it's cruel TO THEM for humans
>> to raise them for food. What you need to do is explain
>> why you think it's ethically superior for people to REFUSE
>> to take that aspect into consideration. GO:
>
>If we were evaluating whether or not it was cruel to humans to raise them
>for food, would it be necessary to "consider their lives"?

Of course it would.

>Why or why not?

Because that's the most significant aspect of trying to
make such an evaluation. That's just the way it is man
and the way it always has been, and there's no way it
could ever change, so there's really no reason for you
to keep trying to fight the fact. If you really can't understand
why then it is because you can only consider it from your
own position without even being able to attempt thinking
about it from the others' pov. That's not just a random
insult, but something you would need to get over in order
to actually become the sort of person you act like you
want to be. But then you'd have to accept the fact that
I've been correct by telling you all this over and over for
years and years, and that I really have been trying to
help you people while you've been insulting me for it,
which happens to be exactly the way it is and has been
all this time...