"Kenneth" > wrote in message ...
> ... it's not a religious matter, so I would suggest that
> you just experiment to see which method provides you better
> bread, and more fun.

Oh, Kenneth, you are so indiscriminative! What do you tell kids about
pot? Well, anyway, it probably won't hurt them. Neither will bakers' yeast
in sourdough, actually. For the most fun, bake some of the leafy stuff
into the sourdough loaves.