On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:39:01 -0700 (PDT), "Mr.Smartypants" > wrote:

>On Mar 24, 10:50*am, dh@. wrote:
>> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>> whatever" - Goo
>>
>> "I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
>> of consideration." - Goo
>>
>> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
>> moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo
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>> "I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
>> that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
>> consideration" - Goo
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>> "There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo
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>> "Life is not a benefit for farm animals." - Goo
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>> "Their lives may be pleasant for them." - Goo
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>> ""Life", by which you mean coming into existence, is not
>> a benefit at all" - Goo
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>> "We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
>> existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo
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>> "Those "lives of positive value" are only meaningful
>> *IF* the livestock exist. " - Goo
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>> "The topic is not and never has been whether or not
>> existing animals enjoy living." - Goo
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>> "IF they exist, then they can benefit (or not) from the
>> aspects of their lives." - Goo
>>
>> "No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo
>>
>> "We are not and never were talking about benefits for
>> existing entities" - Goo
>>
>> "Coming into existence is not a benefit to them" - Goo
>>
>> "Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo
>>
>> "I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
>>
>> "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
>> existence we know" - Goo
>>
>> "I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo
>>
>> "we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo
>>
>> "the deliberate killing of animals for use by humans DOES
>> deserve moral consideration, and gets it." - Goo
>>
>> "Intent doesn't matter" - Goo
>>
>> "ONLY deliberate human killing deserves any moral
>> consideration." - Goo
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>"Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo
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>"I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
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>ROTFLMAO!!
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>Poor stupid Goo.;o)

No one outstupids himself like that Goober. I miss
the days when you would think you'd seen Goob be
as stupid as a person can get, and then he'd surprise
you with something even stupider...ah the days of Goo...